Can all registered uses please login, even just for a few minutes..
It helps build a picture where our "good traffic" is coming from..
Thanks :)
It helps build a picture where our "good traffic" is coming from..
Thanks :)
External Floppy Drive Connector
-
BrettRogersUK
- Posts: 129
- Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 am
External Floppy Drive Connector
Hi All,
I don't know if this is the right place for this so if not please remove and place in the correct area.
I've built a floppy drive cable to connect an external drive to my 1040STE. I followed this excellent tutorial by @rubber_jonnie.
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 92&p=57196
I bought my din plug already wired from Cool Novelties on ebay and added my own 34 pin IDC cable. I've plugged the cable into my atari and plugged the idc end into the floppy drive I took out of the atari when I fitted my gotek. The floppy I took out is an Epson SMD-380.
When @rubber_jonnie fixed my STE he also did the drive swap mod as well. When plugged in I can get the drive light on and the drive activity light comes on but its not reading any discs. The discs read perfectly when plugged in via the greaseweazle on my laptop.
The Atari just says the usual thing when it can't find or load a disc. Is there anything I'm doing wrong? I've also tried a 1.44mb drive as well (also runs through the greaseweazle) but that isn't even getting any drive activity or anything when plugged into the atari external floppy port. Nothing at all is happening.
If anyone has any ideas please feel free to chuck them my way.
EDIT: I have buzzed everything end to end from IDC to DIN and it all checks out, everything is connected as it should be.
I don't know if this is the right place for this so if not please remove and place in the correct area.
I've built a floppy drive cable to connect an external drive to my 1040STE. I followed this excellent tutorial by @rubber_jonnie.
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 92&p=57196
I bought my din plug already wired from Cool Novelties on ebay and added my own 34 pin IDC cable. I've plugged the cable into my atari and plugged the idc end into the floppy drive I took out of the atari when I fitted my gotek. The floppy I took out is an Epson SMD-380.
When @rubber_jonnie fixed my STE he also did the drive swap mod as well. When plugged in I can get the drive light on and the drive activity light comes on but its not reading any discs. The discs read perfectly when plugged in via the greaseweazle on my laptop.
The Atari just says the usual thing when it can't find or load a disc. Is there anything I'm doing wrong? I've also tried a 1.44mb drive as well (also runs through the greaseweazle) but that isn't even getting any drive activity or anything when plugged into the atari external floppy port. Nothing at all is happening.
If anyone has any ideas please feel free to chuck them my way.
EDIT: I have buzzed everything end to end from IDC to DIN and it all checks out, everything is connected as it should be.
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
If I were you I'd test it with the Gotek you know's working internally.BrettRogersUK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:52 pm If anyone has any ideas please feel free to chuck them my way.
They're actually very forgiving, only need the 5V line and can even give you hints (like cable in upside down).
Cheers,
BW
DFB1 Open source 50MHz 030 and TT-RAM accelerator for the Falcon
Smalliermouse ST-optimised USB mouse adapter based on SmallyMouse2
FrontBench The Frontier: Elite 2 intro as a benchmark
Smalliermouse ST-optimised USB mouse adapter based on SmallyMouse2
FrontBench The Frontier: Elite 2 intro as a benchmark
-
BrettRogersUK
- Posts: 129
- Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 am
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
I have actually just got another gotek (bought it to use for my BBC Micro). I will try it this weekend.Badwolf wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:51 pmIf I were you I'd test it with the Gotek you know's working internally.BrettRogersUK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:52 pm If anyone has any ideas please feel free to chuck them my way.
They're actually very forgiving, only need the 5V line and can even give you hints (like cable in upside down).
Cheers,
BW
It's just frustrating that the drive light comes on and tries to access the disc that's in the drive and then throws up the error message. I did test the drive before and it does only need the 5v to work so it's not that there's a lack of voltage. I've got it plugged in via a USB cable to a 5v 1A power supply.
Thanks anyway, I will give it a try with my new Gotek when I've flashed the Flashfloppy firmware.
Regards,
Brett
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
Does the external one work if the internal one is unplugged?BrettRogersUK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:05 pm Thanks anyway, I will give it a try with my new Gotek when I've flashed the Flashfloppy firmware.
BW
DFB1 Open source 50MHz 030 and TT-RAM accelerator for the Falcon
Smalliermouse ST-optimised USB mouse adapter based on SmallyMouse2
FrontBench The Frontier: Elite 2 intro as a benchmark
Smalliermouse ST-optimised USB mouse adapter based on SmallyMouse2
FrontBench The Frontier: Elite 2 intro as a benchmark
-
BrettRogersUK
- Posts: 129
- Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 am
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
This is something else I've got to test.Badwolf wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:09 pmDoes the external one work if the internal one is unplugged?BrettRogersUK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:05 pm Thanks anyway, I will give it a try with my new Gotek when I've flashed the Flashfloppy firmware.
BW
Thanks for the suggestions, much appreciated.
Regards,
Brett
- rubber_jonnie
- Site Admin

- Posts: 15070
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:40 pm
- Location: Essex
- Contact:
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
Test with a known good drive as suggested.
What I would say is that I tested your STE with my external drive that the cable was based on and it worked just fine before I sent it back to you so I very much doubt it's the STE mainboard.
Double check the wiring to be sure and have a look under the microscope in the DIN plug for solder whiskers shorting pins out.
Also note that the red wire of the FDD cable must line up with pin 1 of the plug, usually identified by a small triangle on the 34 pin IDC plug.
If you've managed to get the plug the wrong way round it won't work.
If you're still having issues I will double check with my own working lead to make sure I haven't stuffed up my own tutorial in any way!!
What I would say is that I tested your STE with my external drive that the cable was based on and it worked just fine before I sent it back to you so I very much doubt it's the STE mainboard.
Double check the wiring to be sure and have a look under the microscope in the DIN plug for solder whiskers shorting pins out.
Also note that the red wire of the FDD cable must line up with pin 1 of the plug, usually identified by a small triangle on the 34 pin IDC plug.
If you've managed to get the plug the wrong way round it won't work.
If you're still having issues I will double check with my own working lead to make sure I haven't stuffed up my own tutorial in any way!!
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
-
BrettRogersUK
- Posts: 129
- Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 am
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
I will do all the things you mentioned. The main board is working a treat with the gotek installed. Just got to overcome this little obstacle and I'll have the best of both worlds.rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:17 am Test with a known good drive as suggested.
What I would say is that I tested your STE with my external drive that the cable was based on and it worked just fine before I sent it back to you so I very much doubt it's the STE mainboard.
Double check the wiring to be sure and have a look under the microscope in the DIN plug for solder whiskers shorting pins out.
Also note that the red wire of the FDD cable must line up with pin 1 of the plug, usually identified by a small triangle on the 34 pin IDC plug.
If you've managed to get the plug the wrong way round it won't work.
If you're still having issues I will double check with my own working lead to make sure I haven't stuffed up my own tutorial in any way!!
I have checked that the red striped end goes to pin one of the floppy drive and it does. Like I say I get a drive light and drive activity light on the machine when clicking on the drive icon on the desktop it just doesn't being up the disc contents that I know are good as I can use the drive and disc on my greaseweazle.
I did notice that on your tutorial on the pics you have pin 32 coloured in Red (as not used) and I think you meant it to be pin 34 that's not used at pin 32 is mentioned on the other side next to a din plug pin.
Regards,
Brett
- rubber_jonnie
- Site Admin

- Posts: 15070
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:40 pm
- Location: Essex
- Contact:
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
@BrettRogersUK if you find any issues with the tutorial please let me know and I'll update, I just can't do it for about a week due to personal matters.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
-
BrettRogersUK
- Posts: 129
- Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 am
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
@rubber_jonnie Just checking the wiring on the cable I made up. I may have wired it up wrong.
I've found another wiring chart that says that pin 8 of the ribbon connector should be connected to pin 4 of the din plug. Is this correct?
Looking at your diagram where you've flipped it to show the reverse (solder side of din plug) it would appear that pin 8 of the ribbon connector is in fact showing as being connected to Pin 5 of the DIN Plug in your diagram. If I am right about this then I have indeed wired my din plug up wrong.
It also means that your diagram of looking at the din plug from the rear is actually looking at the din plug from the front and vice versa.
I've found another wiring chart that says that pin 8 of the ribbon connector should be connected to pin 4 of the din plug. Is this correct?
Looking at your diagram where you've flipped it to show the reverse (solder side of din plug) it would appear that pin 8 of the ribbon connector is in fact showing as being connected to Pin 5 of the DIN Plug in your diagram. If I am right about this then I have indeed wired my din plug up wrong.
It also means that your diagram of looking at the din plug from the rear is actually looking at the din plug from the front and vice versa.
Re: External Floppy Drive Connector
These are my notes from 30 years ago
may help... Or confuse even more... May or may not be correct...
Looks like din is 1-14 numbered then where each number goes on the FDC cable.
Looks like din is 1-14 numbered then where each number goes on the FDC cable.
