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Slow STFM blitter oddness

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Re: Slow STFM blitter oddness

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Yeah that looks like the figures I usually get
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Re: Slow STFM blitter oddness

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I would say the TOS in STfm has slower blitting functions than in STe.
Bear in in mind STfm TOS has less space than STe's one - 192k vs 256k.
Atari did some optimisation in order to fit the TOS in 192k (like using LineF functions), which are not present in STe TOS. It could have an impact onto performance figures.

The BLiTTER should has exactly the same timing in ST and STe. The only difference is Mega STE, where due to cache, every blitter pass has additional bus mastering cycle.
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@Cyprian We're talking about TOS206 on STFM ...
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PaulJ wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:14 pm Numbers look ok since this mega 4 is running @ 32.04 instead of 32.08. Also numbers suck like your seeing if acc's and programs are in startup. This is with XBOOT only, no acc's.
So far then, only my board is "slow" I guess have to wait until someone can test a STFM with TOS206.
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Re: Slow STFM blitter oddness

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Which board do you have exxos?
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PhilC wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:57 pm Which board do you have exxos?
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Re: Slow STFM blitter oddness

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exxos wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:57 pm @PaulJ Do you have a STFM you could run TOS206 and blitter on ?

Is it the MM9092 blitter ?
Yes its a MM9092 in the H4 and MEGA.
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exxos wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:40 pm @Cyprian We're talking about TOS206 on STFM ...
ok,
can you do some tests?
I could provide necessary PRG files.
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Cyprian wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:41 am ok,
can you do some tests?
I could provide necessary PRG files.
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Re: Slow STFM blitter oddness

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exxos wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:41 pm So far then, only my board is "slow" I guess have to wait until someone can test a STFM with TOS206.
So this is one of my STFms with TOS 2.06 and Blitter:
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No slowdown! (The 99% in one test can surely be attributed to measurement tolerances.)
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