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Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
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exxos
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Gosh those are a blast from the past. I guess it depends what they are across ? I know the ones I had were mostly 160v but thinner that that one. Though some rated AC or DC voltage. I forget which way it was, but it was like 630VAC or 315VDC kinda thing. I'll try and see what mine say when I get home. I think they were made by Phillips ? Can't exactly remember now.
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
That looks a bit like a dipped, non-RIFA X2 cap.
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Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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exxos
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Looking at evilbay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philips-MKT3 ... ect=mobile
250V then the "dot" so yours I assume is 63v like you thought.
250V then the "dot" so yours I assume is 63v like you thought.
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Definitely non RIFA, though this board did have RIFAs that were on the verge of releasing the smoke and I replaced those when I first started looking at the analog board. CP25 & CP27, so part of that left hand PSU circuit.
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Hmm, yes, that would make sense.exxos wrote: 27 Dec 2021 17:02 Looking at evilbay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philips-MKT3 ... ect=mobile
250V then the "dot" so yours I assume is 63v like you thought.
Bloody annoying all these different methods of identifying capacitors!
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
I agree with the capacitors marking nightmare and the apple's love of y and x class capacitors in the macintosh line
Tom
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
@rubber_jonnie
Have you looked at the opto coupler qp1 it may have a thermal problem
Tom
Have you looked at the opto coupler qp1 it may have a thermal problem
Tom
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
I am waiting for replacement optos to arrive. I did order some, but was sent surface mount in error rather than the DIP packages needed. New ones are on the way, there isn't really much left to replace.Tomswork wrote: 03 Jan 2022 06:56 @rubber_jonnie
Have you looked at the opto coupler qp1 it may have a thermal problem
Tom
I've replaced the TDA4605 and recapped the entire board with a few exceptions like the small ceramics, so the opto is really the last main part of the PSU section to be replaced.
It's so annoying that I have CNY17s that simply won't physically fit. Parts are due Wednesday. I'll replace in the evening if they arrive on time.
If the problem persists after I replace that, I will have to start looking at the other components around the TDA and CNY, and I think I should consider replacing QP2, which is potentially common to both the 5v & 12v lines.
EDIT: IRF-BC40 replacement for QP2 on order.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Woo hoo, my CNY17s arrived this morning, so I will drop one in tonight, see if that helps!
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!
Fingers crossed that it helps. At this rate you'll have a new analogue board effectively.
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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