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I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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Video Touchpad repairs are nearly done:

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As expected the colour code of the new cable didn't match the old one, so I mapped it out and attached the old connectors so it would be a direct match for the PCB which has the colours marked on it. It all buzzes out great, so next I need to reassemble it and test with the 2600.

I got lucky with the strain relief and was able to pull it off the old cable and reuse it.
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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:crossed1:
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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All back together and working perfectly :)

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Quite what I'll do with 2 of them I don't know :lol:

But I suppose I do have more than 1 2600 and the cable is a smidge longer now :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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Yay!
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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I also have a CX 40 joystick coming to make the full set :)

Tomorrow or the weekend I hope :)

Sadly gone are the days of being able to buy a joystick repair kit from Atari, but the memories are still there :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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Well, the CX40 arrived just now and is in excellent condition outside:

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And internally it is excellent too:

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with the main shaft of the stick in perfect order and the cable buzzing out perfectly too :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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My ultimate 2600 Star Raiders setup is complete :)

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Personally I think this is one of the 'Killer Apps' for the 2600 and a superb piece of programming :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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OK, so this just arrived:

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The PCB is very cool, super thin and transparent!

It will solder on the bottom of the mainboard of the 2600, so does need to be so thin.

Hopefully I can get it installed tonight 😁

Also in the picture, 6 new foam disks for the switches as the originals have seen better days.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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OK, so I got back from training and installed the CleanComp and it looks and works great. This is the PCB up close:

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The first job was to identify which IC was the TIA:

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Because the PCB fits on the bottom of the TIA and takes signals directly from it, bypassing all the other video and audio circuitry and feeding directly out to a composite/SVideo cable, you need to orient the CleanComp correctly on the bottom of the PCB/TIA..

Once identified, it's a simple case of flipping the board over and soldering on. I did put some Kapton tape between the CleanComp and the mainboard for insulation, just in case:

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The orientation is such that the GND pin on the TIA, which is pin 1 and marked as such on the 2600 PCB, will poke through the GND hole on the CleanComp, and similarly the 5v, pin 20 on the TIA, will poke through the 5v hole on the CleanComp. All the pins on the left hand side of the TIA should poke through the CleanComp PCB.

You can then just solder directly through the holes onto the pins and the board is secured. You only have to solder the holes that have a square box round them, but I decided to solder them all.

At this point it's also the time to add the 3 blobs of solder on the PAL jumpers. The CleanComp also works with NTSC by jumping the 3 pads for that, but clearly only one or the other can be set at a time.

Then you can wire up the cable, and feed it up to the back of the assembly. Note - you MUST feed the cable through the case before soldering in position because the hole isn't large enough for the plugs to go through:

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I did hot glue the cable down so it didn't move when I fed it out of a convenient slot at the back when reassembling the bottom plate:

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And now you have composite and SVideo out :)

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When reassembling, the new video cable is quite long, so I kept about about a foot outside the case and hid the rest inside the case:

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And since the mod doesn't remove any parts at all, for which I commend it, I also put the UHF lead inside in case a future owner might want to revive the UHF circuit.

During reassembly I did also add 6 new foam pads for the switches:

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As you can see, the old ones at the bottom were disintegrating.

Video quality is very nice:

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I did find the colours a bit vivid, but adjusting the colour profile on my display seemed to resolve that, though there are two tiny pots on the CleanComp that do allow for adjustment.

Which brings us to the question of: "Did it fix my Berzerk issue of the screen going blank when digitised speech is played?'

If I use straight composite into a display, it works 100% like my other composite modded 2600 Jr's. The SVideo quality is even better than composite too. But If I try to use my Retrotink, I have the same issue, the screen goes blank when playing digitised speech.

I am aware of RetroTink issues that can cause this, but that's fine, I can now play Berzerk Enhanced on my original light sixer using composite and have all the digitised speech :)

Overall a nice simple reversible mod, and one I'd recommend.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: I couldn't resist - poorly 2600 light sixer

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That looks gorgeous for a light sixer. Nice one.
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