Morning all!
I've got my old 520STFM back and it appears to be (almost) a worker, except with problems in displaying an image. It is booting, disk drive is working and I can hear/see that it is loading software (Chicago 90 in this case). However, via RF i get sound/black screen and, if I use my RGB Scart cable (Retro Computer Shack) to my CM8833ii, I get a picture, but appears to struggle with Sync. The board is a Rev.F C070759-001 and it's running (iirc) TOS1.4. The TV for RF and the CM8833ii have been tested with other outputs without issue.
Given the symptoms (And my limited skills/understanding of ST hardware) where would be the most obvious places to start? GIven it is behaving impeccably on everything else, I feel like it's probably something fairly innocuous so wondering where the best/obvious place would be to start looking
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520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
There are two types of RGB cables. Both depend on when exactly what ST you have and what monitor along with how the cable is wired.
Some older STs don't have combined vertical and horizontal sync over composite, which cables use in general. Aside from that your monitor may not support composite sync.
So the first step is to see what motherboard you have.. "Rev.F C070759-001" I assume is a typo ?
Some older STs don't have combined vertical and horizontal sync over composite, which cables use in general. Aside from that your monitor may not support composite sync.
So the first step is to see what motherboard you have.. "Rev.F C070759-001" I assume is a typo ?
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
I'm off to a flying start there
Apologies, it is; C070789-001 rev F
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
You have one of the later boards then we should be fine. As you struggling with RF and RGB, you really need a scope to check the V & H syncs are being output from the GLUE and continuity check those points right back to the RGB socket. Also check the socket is not physically damaged as well.
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
Ace, thank you! I have a friend with a scope so we can go from there. Will report back on progress
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
Can I ask what TV you are connecting to with RF? Some modern TVs just don't get along with RF from older computers. It's also worth remembering that RF and composite use similar cables, but are not cross compatible.
I've seen a few things recently on FB where people have connected RF to composite on the display and the results were not as expected.
I'm pretty sure the C070789 supports composite so long as it has a modulator installed, so it might be worth trying a simple composite cable too.
I've seen a few things recently on FB where people have connected RF to composite on the display and the results were not as expected.
I'm pretty sure the C070789 supports composite so long as it has a modulator installed, so it might be worth trying a simple composite cable too.
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
Sure, it is the now archaic Hitachi C14-P216. I never threw it away and was the TV I used with this ST from 1989 to 92. #Nostalgiawavesrubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:25 am Can I ask what TV you are connecting to with RF? Some modern TVs just don't get along with RF from older computers.
I'm pretty sure the C070789 supports composite so long as it has a modulator installed, so it might be worth trying a simple composite cable too.
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Re: 520STFM Playing Blind/Sync Issues
OK, cool.AtariShrimp wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:28 amSure, it is the now archaic Hitachi C14-P216. I never threw it away and was the TV I used with this ST from 1989 to 92. #Nostalgiawavesrubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:25 am Can I ask what TV you are connecting to with RF? Some modern TVs just don't get along with RF from older computers.
I'm pretty sure the C070789 supports composite so long as it has a modulator installed, so it might be worth trying a simple composite cable too.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...