I've run up Choplifter on both my Atari 800XL, and my Apple IIe, there are some visual differences for a start. Note that the Atari has VBXL installed and the Apple has the v2 Analog for VGA out, so both have superior video output when compared to the original machines.
Atari 800XL:
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Apple IIe:
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The Apple has better colour on screen for sure, however the Atari has smoother scrolling and is a faster with smoother scrolling. If I'm honest, the Apple version has some very visible lag in places the Atari does not.
Which do you prefer visually?
Out of interest, this is Apple over VGA (Left) vs Apple over composite (Right):
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Whilst the VGA is much sharper, and the colours less muddy, the artifacting does appear a bit odd for some things that are graphical, but I have to say, when used for text, VGA is the clear winner.
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:43 pm
I've run up Choplifter on both my Atari 800XL, and my Apple IIe, there are some visual differences for a start. Note that the Atari has VBXL installed and the Apple has the v2 Analog for VGA out, so both have superior video output when compared to the original machines.
Atari 800XL:
Choplifter looks better on the real TV due to NTSC artifacts:
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Cyprian wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:42 pm
Choplifter looks better on the real TV due to NTSC artifacts:
To be fair, I was comparing individual versions, AFAIK the one you posted is Choplifter XE, which I do also have, and is here on the 800XL:
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Also, here in the UK artifacting doesn't seem to work so well, at least it never has for me even when present.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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It is more closely aligned to the Apple version, but the colour palette is hideous on my machine. Still a bit faster though.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Tomswork wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 6:23 am
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
