Interrsting article. While it can get complicated, in general when using SMT caps, using 3 values increases the track lengths which just causes problems with higher impeedences. I've just used 1 cap for years and when in as doing digital audio circuits, it's actually greatly improved the noise figures.just 5mm track length can break a design. These days keeping track lengths down is more of a factor than the caps, assuming SMT ceramics are used of course.
https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/ ... tor-values
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I've also seen 3 caps values causes ossilations. All the inductances and cap values build a very complicate mix of oscillators, found that out the hard way years ago. :roll:
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The Myth of Three Capacitor Values
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Re: The Myth of Three Capacitor Values
Analysing it is very complicated - you're in to modelling rather than beard stroking. I just use one value 100nF everywhere... one per power pin... keeps the BOM down to one type of cap and I've never had a problem with any PCB I've done that way. I'll use other values where datasheets ask (mainly power regulator stability caps) but exclusively 100nF for decoupling.
Since what I do works for me I pretty much ignore the topic..
edit: typo changed uF to nF
Since what I do works for me I pretty much ignore the topic..
edit: typo changed uF to nF
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Re: The Myth of Three Capacitor Values
I don't really worry about. In terms of decoupling, I think the old school rule was 100nf every 6 cm or something. I just plaster 1uF -10uF close to main chips now. In terms of what we are generally doing, it really does not matter that much anyway.
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Re: The Myth of Three Capacitor Values
Same hour as I read through that I made an order to my local electronics company.
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Capacitor MLCC 100nF 50V X7R 2.54mm × 15
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I happily noted that they said that if you use MLCC then just go with a "high" value everywhere.
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Capacitor MLCC 100nF 50V X7R 2.54mm × 15
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I happily noted that they said that if you use MLCC then just go with a "high" value everywhere.
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Re: The Myth of Three Capacitor Values
Is probably worth noting as well that when you start getting down to 0805 packages, The actual capacity start dropping dramatically when voltages are present across it.. It's why I mostly trying keep to 0805 & 1206 packages and up.
Dave Jones did a video on all this *somewhere* as well not long back.
Dave Jones did a video on all this *somewhere* as well not long back.
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