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Shielding - is it needed?

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Shielding - is it needed?

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I will shortly be re assembling my 520 STFM, and am wondering if the metal shielding is really needed?

I was going to leave it off like I have on my Amiga and just store it in the loft in case I ever feel the need to put it back. It just seems pointless going to the trouble of modifying the shielding to fit around the 4mb memory upgrade if an easier solution is to not fit it at all?!
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Re: Shielding - is it needed?

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Personally most of mine run without the top shielding, but you do need the bottom shielding for the best fit of the mainboard, so I always keep that.
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No harm in leaving it off. Mines not had it for the past 20 years along with a case :lol:
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Can the shielding guard against an Electro Magnetic Pulse weapon. Was wondering whilst watching an episode of ElectroBoom?
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I believe that the shielding was more necessary when all our equipment were analogic, and thus sensitive to the radiofrequencies generated by surrounding equipment ?
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Given how much RF the MMU seems to spew out, I'm guessing that the shielding is to protect other equipment from the ST.
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Pretty sure the shielding was victorian engineering to prevent interference with other devices. Rather than the device itself needing shielding.

It was much more important when we used RF modulators.
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Just wear a tinfoil hat and all will be fine :lol:
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Icky wrote: 02 Nov 2020 22:24 Just wear a tinfoil hat and all will be fine :lol:
Okay.
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Re: Shielding - is it needed?

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Ha.

Just came here to ask this same question.

Ditching it all. Well, saving it but not reinstalling.

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