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PAK 68/3 in STE

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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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HigashiJun wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:17 am My PAK (FPU fitted) was rock stable at 40 Mhz in my Mega ST, and there was no need for a PUPLA either.
Isn't PUPLA some sort of weird bus buffer board ?
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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exxos wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:25 am
HigashiJun wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:17 am My PAK (FPU fitted) was rock stable at 40 Mhz in my Mega ST, and there was no need for a PUPLA either.
Isn't PUPLA some sort of weird bus buffer board ?
Yes, it is supposed to help with stability issues.

I will try with the PUSTE, specially made for the STE series, to see what happens.
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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exxos wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:01 pm I think after all the troubles @Badwolf had with the FPU, I don't think it is worth all the hassle.
Plus these days we have a very effective soft-FPU, thanks to Anders:

https://github.com/agranlund/tftools/bl ... /fpemu.prg

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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Did that ever get finished for official release ? It should be put in the software essentials section as it would be useful to keep it handy there.
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Badwolf wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:02 pm
exxos wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:01 pm I think after all the troubles @Badwolf had with the FPU, I don't think it is worth all the hassle.
Plus these days we have a very effective soft-FPU, thanks to Anders:

https://github.com/agranlund/tftools/bl ... /fpemu.prg

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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Tried yesterday my PAK68 with its original PUSTE only to discover a white screen at boot-up...

No doubts here about the culprit: the Winslow socket pins are not making contact with the CPU socket when inserted.

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If you look carefully, you will notice that the pins are bent inwards.

As i didn't want to tinker with the PUSTE anymore, I decided to build exxos' DIP adapter (as two sets were biding their time in my spare parts box) and compare its behaviour with Badwolf's one.

The result is:

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No more memory errors nor freezes or reboots at startup.

Ultrasatan and FDD doesn't work though, but I didn't tried with PUPLA/2 yet.

I didn't revert to original SILs and still use exxos' recommended values.

Have to investigate a bit further to see if there's a way to make Badwolf's adapter work with my PAK.
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Excellent progress. :)
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Tried the last setup with the PUPLA/2 and had issues as previously (memory errors and freezes) and there was no way to get to the desktop.

Guess there's too much buffers in now: exxos' adapter buffers and PUPLA/2 buffers.
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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Darklord wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:59 am Excellent progress. :)
Thanks !

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Re: PAK 68/3 in STE

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Nice work!
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