Haha, I kind of expected it to be a 25Mhz tbh! It's great that they run so well!8 Bit Dreams wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:55 pm Have these too.. Washed with acetone and look what it is:
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Source of 68030 with MMU?
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- GadgetUK164
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
If we believe this info http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/68030/Mot ... RC50C.html
Then those chips labeled RP25C are using a mask (0G40W) used for 50Mhz MC68030RC50C chips
Then those chips labeled RP25C are using a mask (0G40W) used for 50Mhz MC68030RC50C chips
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
That is odd. Would these be double-remarked chips, or just 50MHz parts that, for whatever reason, failed tests and were sold as 25Mhz parts?pipper wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:29 pm If we believe this info http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/68030/Mot ... RC50C.html
Then those chips labeled RP25C are using a mask (0G40W) used for 50Mhz MC68030RC50C chips
Noticed the listing had vanished from my ebay account and replaced with a message from ebay saying the removed the listing from the site. I guess too many people reported them as "fake".
Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/product-cha ... 00283.html
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/product-cha ... 00321.html
I think at some point they just consolidated manufacturing of all 030 chips to 0.8um, yet still sold them at different price points. Could also be due to testing - its a gamble.
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/product-cha ... 00321.html
I think at some point they just consolidated manufacturing of all 030 chips to 0.8um, yet still sold them at different price points. Could also be due to testing - its a gamble.
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
I can understand someone reporting the listing I guess - I would prefer they were just honest and sold them as originally stamped as 25Mhz chips, that use the 50Mhz die (with no guarantees on performance). Then people know what they are getting. It's a shame, I would have liked to have ordered some more (even knowing what they are). There are other sellers though - of the same thing.simon.osborne wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:02 amThat is odd. Would these be double-remarked chips, or just 50MHz parts that, for whatever reason, failed tests and were sold as 25Mhz parts?pipper wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:29 pm If we believe this info http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/68030/Mot ... RC50C.html
Then those chips labeled RP25C are using a mask (0G40W) used for 50Mhz MC68030RC50C chips
Noticed the listing had vanished from my ebay account and replaced with a message from ebay saying the removed the listing from the site. I guess too many people reported them as "fake".
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
Yeah, I'd be happy to buy them marked correctly. I've put my chip into my TF330 set up with mmulib and maprom and had it running the frontier intro on loop whilst I was working last night, and it seems absolutely fine at 50MHz. Probably a bit overkill for a CD32 but I really wanted the chip for a TF536 once some more boards become available.GadgetUK164 wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:41 amI can understand someone reporting the listing I guess - I would prefer they were just honest and sold them as originally stamped as 25Mhz chips, that use the 50Mhz die (with no guarantees on performance). Then people know what they are getting. It's a shame, I would have liked to have ordered some more (even knowing what they are). There are other sellers though - of the same thing.simon.osborne wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:02 am
That is odd. Would these be double-remarked chips, or just 50MHz parts that, for whatever reason, failed tests and were sold as 25Mhz parts?
Noticed the listing had vanished from my ebay account and replaced with a message from ebay saying the removed the listing from the site. I guess too many people reported them as "fake".
Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
Listing is gone now but got mine today.. indeed remarked but runs solid. Had a remarked goldtop that would puke on Leonard's AmigAtari sound demo (is a good test btw.. gets things good and toasty!) Would always crash on Tao's Ultimate Medley part 1..pipper wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:45 pm I guess I was lucky with these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-5PCS-MC68 ... 2749.l2649
Have an MMU and work @50Mhz in TF530/536. They all look brand new and carry identical text on them... so they might be rebranded.
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Thanks for the heads up on this one as was dirt cheap!
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weav
Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
Also managed to pick one up before the seller closed up shop.
Obvious reprint when you compare the finish to a genuine CPU.
Ran it for about 20 minutes in a TF534 with Frontier and it started to crash, temperature of the chip was about 55c (Ambient was around 22c)
May stand up with a passive heatsink who knows, but not reliable from my brief experience.
I have a number of genuine 50C goldtops these never go above 30c running Frontier 24-7.
I have one genuine 33B (95 datecode) it works well also, but mid 40c temp.
Have not tried it in a TF536, mainly because I need to get off my bum and build one
maybe this weekend 
Obvious reprint when you compare the finish to a genuine CPU.
Ran it for about 20 minutes in a TF534 with Frontier and it started to crash, temperature of the chip was about 55c (Ambient was around 22c)
May stand up with a passive heatsink who knows, but not reliable from my brief experience.
I have a number of genuine 50C goldtops these never go above 30c running Frontier 24-7.
I have one genuine 33B (95 datecode) it works well also, but mid 40c temp.
Have not tried it in a TF536, mainly because I need to get off my bum and build one
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Re: Source of 68030 with MMU?
These seem to have got old stock for sale at a very reasonable price. I have already added some in my basket but haven't really figured out how many to buy as 4 seems to be the sweet spot for me postage wise but I don't really need four.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-MC6 ... 2339741299
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-MC6 ... 2339741299
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FWIW I bought a NOS 060 Rev 6 from this seller and I received exactly what I paid for - a brand new legit Rev 6. In fact his first and only feedback is mine...
sugar wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:47 am These seem to have got old stock for sale at a very reasonable price. I have already added some in my basket but haven't really figured out how many to buy as 4 seems to be the sweet spot for me postage wise but I don't really need four.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-MC6 ... 2339741299