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markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:46 pm I installed HDDRIVER 8.04 on a SCSI drive and booted from the SCSI drive normally, but unfortunately the errors occur again.
Do you have any AUTO folder programs loading on SCSI ? or CPX modules ?
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markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:36 pm Done. From a floppy in the directory AUTO HDDRIVER 11.13 and trying to unpack the file = bombs
Same but HDDRIVER 8.04 = ok no errors
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markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:46 pm I installed HDDRIVER 8.04 on a SCSI drive and booted from the SCSI drive normally, but unfortunately the errors occur again.
I think this shows 8.04 will work, but order is important.

Which it shouldn't be, but may be a data point to ask Uwe about.

But it does raise the question of why we aren't seeing problems with TF536 + ACSI + HDDriver.

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Also, given that the TT has the same SCSI controller chip, problems on the TT.
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stephen_usher wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:58 pm Also, given that the TT has the same SCSI controller chip, problems on the TT.
Not if my hypothesis that order is important is correct -- TOS3 detects TT-RAM before HDDriver launches.

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EDIT: to that end, anyone want to supply a hacked TOS4 image that allocates 64MB TT-RAM? Just for testing (a real one would need detection etc.)
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stephen_usher wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:26 pm The first cable goes from the Falcon (HD50) to a DB50 (male). The second goes from a DB50 socket (female) to an IDC, connecting to a drive. I thought that was what you wanted.
First cable goes HD50(M) to DB50, but second goes HD50(F) to IDC. The common interface is the wrong one!

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OK, how about DB25 female to IDC-50 male adapter https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153561365420 with an HD50 male to DB25 male cable https://scsishop.co.uk/product/external ... e-to-male/ ?
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Re: DFB1 Support thread

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Badwolf wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:52 pm
markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:36 pm Done. From a floppy in the directory AUTO HDDRIVER 11.13 and trying to unpack the file = bombs
Same but HDDRIVER 8.04 = ok no errors
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markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:46 pm I installed HDDRIVER 8.04 on a SCSI drive and booted from the SCSI drive normally, but unfortunately the errors occur again.
I think this shows 8.04 will work, but order is important.

Which it shouldn't be, but may be a data point to ask Uwe about.

But it does raise the question of why we aren't seeing problems with TF536 + ACSI + HDDriver.

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I also found version 9.0 and 10.12 HDDRIVER.
From the C drive on the SCSI device, I deleted the AUTO CPX folders and ACC files to be sure, I also uninstalled HDDRIVER 11.13 to be sure.
on the floppy disk I put only the necessary files in the AUTO folder and AUTOSORT.PRG in the root directory and HDDRUTIL.APP.
Conclusions:
HDDRIVER versions 8.04 and 9.0 work properly when they are started second after MAPROM22.PRG
HDDRIVER version 10.12 and 11.13 even running like this still cause problems
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stephen_usher wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:37 pm OK, how about DB25 female to IDC-50 male adapter https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153561365420 with an HD50 male to DB25 male cable https://scsishop.co.uk/product/external ... e-to-male/ ?
I was thinking perhaps https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324086486640 (HD50(M) to HD68(F)) then https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374253924225 (HD68(M) to IDC50(M)). But like I say. Life and shortness. :P

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markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:47 pm I also found version 9.0 and 10.12 HDDRIVER.
From the C drive on the SCSI device, I deleted the AUTO CPX folders and ACC files to be sure, I also uninstalled HDDRIVER 11.13 to be sure.
on the floppy disk I put only the necessary files in the AUTO folder and AUTOSORT.PRG in the root directory and HDDRUTIL.APP.
Conclusions:
HDDRIVER versions 8.04 and 9.0 work properly when they are started second after MAPROM22.PRG
HDDRIVER version 10.12 and 11.13 even running like this still cause problems
Great research, Markus. Thank you.

Does anyone who's actually experiencing this problem have an open ticket with Uwe at the moment? The above is extremely useful information if it could be passed on, please.

In the meantime, does ADHI recognise your partitions?

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Re: DFB1 Support thread

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Badwolf wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:36 pm
markus0321 wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:47 pm I also found version 9.0 and 10.12 HDDRIVER.
From the C drive on the SCSI device, I deleted the AUTO CPX folders and ACC files to be sure, I also uninstalled HDDRIVER 11.13 to be sure.
on the floppy disk I put only the necessary files in the AUTO folder and AUTOSORT.PRG in the root directory and HDDRUTIL.APP.
Conclusions:
HDDRIVER versions 8.04 and 9.0 work properly when they are started second after MAPROM22.PRG
HDDRIVER version 10.12 and 11.13 even running like this still cause problems
Great research, Markus. Thank you.

Does anyone who's actually experiencing this problem have an open ticket with Uwe at the moment? The above is extremely useful information if it could be passed on, please.

In the meantime, does ADHI recognise your partitions?

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I only found version 6.061 and it doesn't see the partition. I will have to prepare everything again on the second SCSI disk and transfer the files for testing.
EDIT:
It succeeded and only sees the first two partitions from this SCSI disk. I was able to install AHDI on drive C and boot from SCSI. From what I've managed to check, programs that didn't run before now work properly and I don't have to boot from a floppy disk. Unfortunately, I do not see the partition above the letter D, so there is no way to check if the archives are unpacking correctly. For sure I have to set up smaller partitions for AHDI or use a smaller disk size.
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