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The strange case of the Commodore 64 colour bands.

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Re: The strange case of the Commodore 64 colour bands.

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Just a thought, would it be feasible to feed the signal from a function generator in place of the crystal, just to see if a stable signal makes the problem go away?
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Re: The strange case of the Commodore 64 colour bands.

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Unfortunately I don't have a signal generator.
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:39 am Unfortunately I don't have a signal generator.
That won't fly then.....
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My goodness that was quick. The Mouser package has already reached Stanstead Airport from Texus and I only ordered it about 24 hours ago.
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:26 pm My goodness that was quick. The Mouser package has already reached Stanstead Airport from Texus and I only ordered it about 24 hours ago.
Crikey, that was quite rapid!!
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Now that I've adjusted the guns on my Ferguson TX telly it's showing the same degree of banding as on the LCD, just a bit more fuzzily.
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I haz crystal!
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stephen_usher wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:41 pm I haz crystal!
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With the new crystal it's not perfect but it's hugely better.
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Re: The strange case of the Commodore 64 colour bands.

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The next thing will be getting a replacement for the modulator as that's the only other place that noise can be introduced.
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