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Black vertical lines on ST

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Black vertical lines on ST

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Hey guys,

Just hoping for some pointers on this. At first I thought it was a RAM issue but the memory test passes fine on diagnostics and on YAART. Machine is an old rev B ST. Any ideas? Thanks

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Re: Black vertical lines on ST

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I recently helped solve a similar issue: https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 63#p421063. (Of course, in your case it won't be exactly D10, but another data line.)
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Thanks @czietz I'll check it out!
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Looks like a Shifter issue.
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PS: Looking at the pattern on your photo, I suspect D3.
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Machine would not boot like that if it was a RAM fault, you basically have one data bit low all the time. I would check out the databus to the shifter or re-solder it etc.
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exxos wrote: 10 Sep 2021 12:38 Machine would not boot like that if it was a RAM fault, you basically have one data bit low all the time. I would check out the databus to the shifter or re-solder it etc.
@Steve That makes sense considering the other stuff we found.
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Re: Black vertical lines on ST

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Hi guys,

I've checked D0 to D15 going to U22/26/23/27 pins, everything seems to be connected fine (buzzed them all) I also swapped out all chips U22/26/23/27 with different ones. I also swapped the shifter, still the same.. hmm what am I doing wrong?! :D

Here's a picture of the lines I've buzzed (highlighted in green spray paint) they all seem fine:

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Re: Black vertical lines on ST

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@Steve ok so all the lines buzz out ok, good. Now stick your scope on them one by one and one of them is likely staying low, hence the black line.
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Re: Black vertical lines on ST

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Check other side of U22, U23, U26, U27.

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