Well I did say it was dark - didn't realise how dark until I filmed itIcky wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:23 pmJust in the process of getting the video uploaded of the motherboard driver circuit in play.exxos wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:17 pm @ Icky, I wonder if you can try the normal RGB circuit, but lift out the BLACKing didoes D1,D2,D3 ?
Then I may get time to lift the blanking diodes - non-Atari duties are calling tonight.
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I lifted that highlighted pin which, and linked to small wire from it to the BLANKing line...
So when BLANK is high, it selects D-RGB mode, when BLANK is low it selects A-RGB mode...
Technically the A-RGB lines are floating, but at this time of night I did not care, and it works anyway so
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Brilliant so it was blanking relatedexxos wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:58 pm
I lifted that highlighted pin which, and linked to small wire from it to the BLANKing line...
So when BLANK is high, it selects D-RGB mode, when BLANK is low it selects A-RGB mode...
Technically the A-RGB lines are floating, but at this time of night I did not care, and it works anyway so![]()
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Question now is to compare original circuit against new DAC circuit to see improvement.
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Sadly it looks the sameIcky wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:00 pm Question now is to compare original circuit against new DAC circuit to see improvement.
Mostly I was trying to get rid of the vertical noise lines in the drag bar but they are still there... Only now they seem to be flickering a little bit...
I do have some 40R resistors in series with the RGB outputs with 47pF on them.. so its not like its noise there...
Gave myself permission to upload a high res shot to illustrate this...
The thing is, I don't think I saw this on the Falcon video.. and its the same chip now
BTW - the jumper does up the brightness a little, not a great deal...
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So, is this a similar issue to the “front porch”/“back porch” video generation issues that the early ZX81 ULAs had?
Basically in that case the ULA didn’t produce a “back porch” on the video signal so the TV/monitor circuitry couldn’t determine the base level of the signal. In the case of the ZX81 color TVs took the “white” level to be black and dimmed the display accordingly.
I guess that in this case the monitor could be taking a floating value as the black level, when the border is white. When it’s black then it emulates a back porch.
Basically in that case the ULA didn’t produce a “back porch” on the video signal so the TV/monitor circuitry couldn’t determine the base level of the signal. In the case of the ZX81 color TVs took the “white” level to be black and dimmed the display accordingly.
I guess that in this case the monitor could be taking a floating value as the black level, when the border is white. When it’s black then it emulates a back porch.
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Well done guys. Looking better and better.
You'll get there with the quality thing Exxos, just take a bit of tweaking is all.
Will lift the pin tomorrow and catch up yet again, lol.
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You'll get there with the quality thing Exxos, just take a bit of tweaking is all.
Will lift the pin tomorrow and catch up yet again, lol.
Still didn't fix the floppy drive problem, too busy with Fallout 76.
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Re: Video driver thoughts
It looks like your display is doing a great deal of “sharpening”. Lots of nasty halos!exxos wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:06 pmSadly it looks the sameIcky wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:00 pm Question now is to compare original circuit against new DAC circuit to see improvement.![]()
Mostly I was trying to get rid of the vertical noise lines in the drag bar but they are still there... Only now they seem to be flickering a little bit...
I do have some 40R resistors in series with the RGB outputs with 47pF on them.. so its not like its noise there...
Gave myself permission to upload a high res shot to illustrate this...
IMG_3626.JPG
The thing is, I don't think I saw this on the Falcon video.. and its the same chip now
BTW - the jumper does up the brightness a little, not a great deal...
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.

