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Stuff and Things.
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Looks as good as it did in the Auction listing. I felt it was a good price for UK Trak ball which for some strange reason are dirt cheap in USA and expensive in UK.
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Yeah, it is in VGC and it was a very good price as they don't come up often and are often usually double what I paid.alexh wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2026 10:53 am Looks as good as it did in the Auction listing. I felt it was a good price for UK Trak ball which for some strange reason are dirt cheap in USA and expensive in UK.
It's odd they are cheap in the US though as I had one BITD so I know they were sold in the UK. Perhaps it's just more survived in the US?
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OK, so the CX80 is apart for a service:
It requires a fair bit of force to get the sensors out plus the plastic filler piece where the trakball/joystick mode switch and the cable enter the case. Nothing broken though
Atari do thoughtfully mark the connections with the wire colours on the PCB though:
And as you can see the cable sheath has pulled back making the strain relief a bit iffy:
So that's next on the repair list, since I'm waiting on parts for all my other projects...
It requires a fair bit of force to get the sensors out plus the plastic filler piece where the trakball/joystick mode switch and the cable enter the case. Nothing broken though
Atari do thoughtfully mark the connections with the wire colours on the PCB though:
And as you can see the cable sheath has pulled back making the strain relief a bit iffy:
So that's next on the repair list, since I'm waiting on parts for all my other projects...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Don't think I've ever seen inside a trackball before 
Good oldskool rounded tracks as well !
Good oldskool rounded tracks as well !
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I know, the PCBs look almost hand drawn, very niceexxos wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 11:38 am Don't think I've ever seen inside a trackball before
Good oldskool rounded tracks as well !
Here's a look at both sides:
And the cable/strain relief is looking a lot better.
I'm just going to pop a drop of superglue in at the top where the strain relief is thickest to be sure it doesn't pull out again.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Yeah, they probably were
Ironic really that these days we have technical papers saying not to do right angled tracks etc, which is common these days , and yet in the 1980's , they had it nailed down by default using wavy tracks!
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Enter the microchip world today where transistors have to leave space so the electrons can exist in more than one place at once.exxos wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 1:24 pm Ironic really that these days we have technical papers saying not to do right angled tracks etc
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Re: Stuff and Things.
Exactlyexxos wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 1:24 pmYeah, they probably were![]()
Ironic really that these days we have technical papers saying not to do right angled tracks etc, which is common these days , and yet in the 1980's , they had it nailed down by default using wavy tracks!![]()
I have an Amstrad Alt-386 laptop and whoever deigned the PCB only had right angled instruments to hand, it's really quite ugly.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Stuff and Things.
alexh wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 1:34 pmEnter the microchip world today where transistors have to leave space so the electrons can exist in more than one place at once.exxos wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 1:24 pm Ironic really that these days we have technical papers saying not to do right angled tracks etc

Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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ahh sounds like the Falcon then. It was really a rush job on the autorouter on that one. Everything is right angled when it could could have easy wins of 45 deg. Not much pride in PCB work anymore is there.rubber_jonnie wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2026 1:39 pm I have an Amstrad Alt-386 laptop and whoever deigned the PCB only had right angled instruments to hand, it's really quite ugly.
