stephen_usher wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 10:17 am
Re: backlight. It's probably the cold cathode florescent tube gone bye-bye rather than anything else.
I did consider that if the machine was running off battery the backlight would be off, but all the info I've found suggests otherwise. The BIOS too suggests this isn't the case either.
I agree, it is likely the CCFT that's gone, it wouldn't be the first one I've had this happen on. Have been wondering if there's a way to replace with LED's.
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OK, so a little investigation and I can see something. Power is off:
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And power is on:
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So there is a little bit of light being generated by the tube, but clearly insufficient for the job at hand. Also, if I turn up the brightness that is reflected at the tube, but still not enough.
The inverter has a 10v supply. My assumption is that it's enough, however I'm wary of trying to measure the output of the inverter as we're looking at (As best I can tell) could be up to 600v AC.
My meter does supposedly support up to 600v, but I'm wary nonetheless.
So at present it could be:
The inverter can't generate the voltage required to fully illuminate the tube.
The tube is tired and won't fully light.
A combination of both.
I am leaning towards number 1 at the moment though, but you neve know with the tubes.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Looking closer at the tube, I see it's quite dark at the top end:
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So thinking it does look like the tube.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
So, I also need to get back to this machine, it could be a useful tool, so I need to figure out what I can do about revitalising the display.
Onwards and upwards
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
So, CCFL tubes are available, mine is 7.5"/190mm and 4mm diameter so I'll see what I can get hold of.
There is a UK company (Backlightweb) so it might be relatively simple.
They also make LED replacement kits so I'll have a look but a new tube would be simplest.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
I was a bit shocked to be honest, but the website I linked to above is quite a find and covers a lot of different CCFL options.
I managed to get a bare lamp and will have to solder the wires on myself but it does mean I know the wires will be the right length.
We'll see when it arrives
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
OK, backlight has shipped, lets see how it does when it arrives!
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
OK, so the backlight has arrived and whilst I seem to have mucked up the measurements slightly (It's a bit longer (5mm) and narrower (4mm vs 5mm) than the original) I believe that it should still fit ok and as long as it isn't the inverter that's dead (I don't think so as I had a bit of a zap off it, then the new one should do fine.
If not then they are relatively inexpensive so I could order another. We'll see, I just need to transfer the wiring over first.
I'll report back later.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...