Falcon + CUBASE AUDIO + SCSI - Experiences?

[exxos]

Wow @exxos that sounds like a long journey. The bluescsi interface is so easy to work with as I can mount the SD card images on my Mac and transfer files (provided it is partitioned as TOS/Windows.

Yeah. Finally got your song loaded running from SCSI. Needed to put back my 14MB RAM card !

The song starts with a buzzzzz I think thats the start of the song ? I thought total sound failure :lol: Seems like some strings playing about 63 seconds in.. Will leave it playing all the way (DFB1X not fitted)

Small discovery. I found out that with DFB1X and clock V3, if I configured V3 with no delay, I am getting digital bit crushing really fast, however if I add the delay, it takes a while before digital bit crushing starts.

Interesting.. Maybe soon we can start joining the dots of all these data points..

[exxos]

DFB1X now back in. I get the first box in cubase on about the clock, I click OK, then it locks up totally. Cannot move the mouse even ! So I cannot even get to load the music so far.

I have not set PRGFLAGS, and no TTram activity (no MAPROM either).

Plugged JTAG in a connector off, Falcon crashed at wont reset now :pullhair:

EDIT:

Think I've managed to kill the DFB1X and my programmer :(

Plugged in my second DFB1X and now JTAG is screwed up :(

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[exxos]

Anyway, my second DFB1X (50Mhz) is now playing the song... A few seconds in and it sounds corrupted now I think..

The Other one was 40MHz and cubase crashed on loading.

EDIT:

Tried a few times. Sometimes get a odd buzzzzzzz when cubase loads.. Later get screen corruptions.. and a row of bombs..

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The screen corruption happens just after loading the song and its drawing the main screen.

DFB1X in 16MHz mode makes no odds.

[exxos]

Like I say, I’ll wager there is some special sauce Cubase Audio SCSI code in play that’s so finely tuned to the clock frequency that it’s thrown by the longer (more complex) bus arbitration going on with the double CPUs.

The reason I asked about CT60 is it’s one of the few other accelerators I know that must perform a similar dance (it doesn’t need soldering). CT2 is a closer analogue to DFB1, but I think you had to disable the onboard CPU for that.

I do wonder what the Cubase CT60 patch does, but it may simply be a FPU fix for running on an 060. Can the CT60 patch run on an 030?

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I tried the patcher program and it just crashed, so aint going any further with it. to many rabbit holes going on now...

The document only said.

Cubase Audio Patch
------------------
This program create a new CAF_060.PRG from the old CAF_20x.PRG.
The cache calls are now for the 68060.
The internal DSP functions are modified (hansdhake).

You must install EXCEP060.PRG inside the AUTO folder for fix the
format error.

This patch works only on an umpacked CAF_20x.PRG (1MB).

There is source for the patcher.

Code: Select all

 ILABEL TOS.Q

;                         D‚but du programme
 GEM_INIT
 LEA 0,A6
\1:BSR SELECTEUR_OBJET
 BEQ \3
 PRINTLINE MESS2
 OPEN #1,PATH
 MOVE D0,D7
 BMI \1
 LSEEK #2,D7,#0
 MOVE.L D0,D6
 BLE \4
 LSEEK #0,D7,#0
 TST.L D0
 BMI \4 
 MALLOC D6 
 TST.L D0
 BLE \4
 MOVE.L D0,A6
 READ (A6),D6,D7
 MOVE.L D0,-(SP)
 CLOSE D7
 CMP.L (SP)+,D6
 BNE \4
 TST.L D0
 BMI \4
 CMP #$601A,(A6)
 BNE \4
 BSET #0,25(A6);fast load
 BCLR #1,25(A6);TT-RAM prg 
 BSET #2,25(A6);TT-RAM data
 MOVE.L A6,A1;patchs
 MOVE.L D6,D1
 LSR.L #1,D1
 MOVEQ #0,D2
\6:MOVE.L (A1),D0
  CMP.L #$A204B0FC,D0;DSP
  BNE \8
  CMP.L #$00006712,4(A1)
  BNE \8
  CMP.L #$53406D0E,8(A1)
  BNE \8
  CMP.L #$082A0001,12(A1)
  BNE \8
  CMP.L #$FFFE67F8,16(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$249851C8,20(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$FFFCB2FC,24(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$00006712,28(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$53416D0E,32(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$082A0000,36(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$FFFE67F8,40(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP.L #$22D251C9,44(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  CMP #$FFFC,48(A1)
  BNE.S \8
  MOVE.L #$FFF4B2FC,24(A1)
  MOVE #$FFF4,48(A1)
  LEA 50(A1),A1
  PRINTLINE MESS3
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7
\8:CMP.L #$A204B0FC,D0
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$00006716,4(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$53406D12,8(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$082A0001,12(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$FFFE67F8,16(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$341848C2,20(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$248251C8,24(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$FFF8B2FC,28(A1)
  BNE \9
  CMP.L #$00006716,32(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP.L #$53416D12,36(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP.L #$082A0000,40(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP.L #$FFFE67F8,44(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP.L #$45EA0002,48(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP.L #$32D251C9,52(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  CMP #$FFFC,56(A1)
  BNE.S \9
  MOVE #$FFF0,28(A1)
  MOVE.L #$4E7132EA,48(A1)  
  MOVE.L #$000251C9,52(A1)
  MOVE #$FFF0,56(A1)
  LEA 58(A1),A1
  PRINTLINE MESS4
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7
\9:CMP.L #$A204B0FC,D0
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$0000671C,4(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$53406D18,8(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$082A0001,12(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$FFFE67F8,16(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$15580001,20(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$15580002,24(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$15580003,28(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$51C8FFF2,32(A1)
  BNE \12
  CMP.L #$B2FC0000,36(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$671C5341,40(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$6D18082A,44(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$0000FFFE,48(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$67F812EA,52(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$000112EA,56(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$000212EA,60(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP.L #$000351C9,64(A1)
  BNE.S \12
  CMP #$FFF2,68(A1)
  BNE.S \12 
  MOVE.L #$51C8FFEA,32(A1)
  MOVE #$FFEA,68(A1)
  LEA 70(A1),A1
  PRINTLINE MESS5
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7
\12:CMP.L #$43F8A204,D0
  BNE.S \14
  CMP.L #$13580001,4(A1)
  BNE.S \14
  CMP.L #$13580002,8(A1)
  BNE.S \14
  CMP.L #$13580003,12(A1)
  BNE.S \14
  CMP.L #$538066F0,16(A1)
  BNE.S \14
  MOVE.L #$43F8A202,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$08110001,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$67FA5649,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$12D832D8,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$538066EC,(A1)+
  PRINTLINE MESS6
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7 
\14:CMP.L #$43F8A204,D0
  BNE.S \10
  CMP.L #$10E90001,4(A1)
  BNE.S \10
  CMP.L #$10E90002,8(A1)
  BNE.S \10
  CMP.L #$10E90003,12(A1)
  BEQ.S \15
  CMP.L #$10A90003,12(A1)
  BNE.S \10
\15:CMP.L #$538066F0,16(A1)
  BNE.S \10
  MOVE.L #$43F8A202,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$08110000,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$67FA5649,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$10D930D9,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$538066EC,(A1)+
  PRINTLINE MESS7
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7  
\10:CMP.L #$4E7A0002,D0;cache
  BNE.S \11
  CMP.L #$00400808,4(A1)
  BNE.S \11
  CMP.L #$4E7B0002,8(A1)
  BNE.S \11
  MOVE.L #$F4F84E71,(A1)+;CPUSH BC
  MOVE.L #$4E714E71,(A1)+
  MOVE.L #$4E714E71,(A1)+
  PRINTLINE MESS8; 2X
  ADDQ #1,D2
  BRA \7
\11:CMP.L #$4E7A2002,D0
  BNE \7
  CMP.L #$22020881,4(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  CMP.L #$000808C1,8(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  CMP.L #$00030881,12(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  CMP.L #$00004E7B,16(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  CMP.L #$10024E91,20(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  CMP.L #$4E7B2002,24(A1)
  BNE.S \7
  MOVE.L #$2202F4F8,4(A1)
  MOVE.L #$223CA0C0,8(A1)
  MOVE.L #$00004E7B,12(A1)
  MOVE.L #$10024E91,16(A1)
  MOVE.L #$F4F84E7B,20(A1)
  MOVE.L #$20024E71,24(A1)
  LEA 28(A1),A1
  PRINTLINE MESS9
  ADDQ #1,D2
\7:ADDQ #2,A1
 SUBQ.L #1,D1
 BGT \6
 MOVEQ #8,D1
 CMP D1,D2
 BEQ \13
 PRINTLINE ERR3
 OR #$30,D1
 OR #$30,D2
 CONOUT D2
 CONOUT #"/"
 CONOUT D1
 CONOUT #")"
\13:LEA NOM_OUT,A0
 BSR CHEMIN_COMPLET
 CREATE #0,PATH
 TST D0
 BMI \5
 MOVE D0,D7
 WRITE (A6),D6,D7
 MOVE.L D0,-(SP)
 CLOSE D7
 MOVE.L (SP)+,D0
 BMI.S \5
 CLOSE D7
 PRINTLINE MESS1
 BRA.S \2
\4:PRINTLINE ERR1
 BRA.S \2 
\5:PRINTLINE ERR2
\2:CONIN_WE
 MOVE.L A6,D0
 BEQ.S \3
 MFREE (A6)
\3:LINK A6,#-8
 WIND_GET #0,WF_WORKXYWH,D0,-8(A6)
 FORM_DIAL #3,--8(A6),-8(A6),D0
 GRAF_MOUSE #0,ADDRIN,D0
 UNLK A6
 GEM_EXIT

SELECTEUR_OBJET:

 MOVEM.L D1-A5,-(SP)
\4:CURDRV
 MOVE D0,D1
 ADDQ #1,D1
 ADD.B #"A",D0
 LEA PATH,A0
 MOVE.B D0,(A0)+
 MOVE.B #":",(A0)+
 GETDIR D1,(A0)
 LEA PATH,A0
 MOVE #1000,D0
\1:TST.B (A0)+
 DBEQ D0,\1
 MOVE.B #"\",-1(A0)
 LEA SELECT,A1
\5:MOVE.B (A1)+,(A0)+
 BNE.S \5
 CLR.B (A0) 
 FSEL_EXINPUT PATH,NOM,MESS_SEL,D0,D0
 TST D0
 BEQ \2
 LEA NOM,A2
 MOVE.L A2,A0
 TST.B (A2)
 BEQ \4
 CMP.B #".",(A2)
 BEQ \4
 CMP.B #"_",(A2)
 BEQ \4
\3:BSR CHEMIN_COMPLET
 GRAF_MOUSE #2,ADDRIN,D0
 MOVEQ #-1,D0
\2:MOVEM.L (SP)+,D1-A5
 TST D0
 RTS

CHEMIN_COMPLET:

 MOVE.L A0,-(SP)
 LEA PATH,A0
 LEA (A0),A1
\1:MOVE.B (A0)+,D0
 BEQ \2
 CMP.B #"\",D0
 BNE \1
 LEA (A0),A1
 BRA \1
\2:MOVE.L (SP),A0
\3:MOVE.B (A0)+,(A1)+;nom+chemin dans PATH
 BNE \3
 MOVE.L (SP)+,A0
 RTS
 
 DATA
 ALIGN
MESS_SEL:DC.B "Where is CAF_20?.PRG ?",0
SELECT:DC.B "CAF_20?.PRG",0
NOM:DS.B 13
NOM_OUT:DC.B "CAF_060.PRG",0

MESS1:DC.B 13,10,10,"Finished",13,10,"Press a key...",0
MESS2:DC.B 27,"E",13,10,10,27,"p CAF Patch 68060 ",27,"q",13,10,10,0
MESS3:DC.B 13,10,"Patch DSP 1",0
MESS4:DC.B 13,10,"Patch DSP 2",0
MESS5:DC.B 13,10,"Patch DSP 3",0
MESS6:DC.B 13,10,"Patch DSP 4",0
MESS7:DC.B 13,10,"Patch DSP 5",0
MESS8:DC.B 13,10,"Patch cache 1",0
MESS9:DC.B 13,10,"Patch cache 2",0
ERR1:DC.B 13,10,"Read error",0
ERR2:DC.B 13,10,"Write error",0
ERR3:DC.B 13,10,10,"WARNING ! A part is not patched ! (",0

 BSS
 ALIGN
PATH:DS.B 1024
 END

With the DFB1X, it hardly finishes loading the program before it locks up.

So ... dunno... We may have to mark cubase as not fixable if its geared only for stock machines :(

[mikro]

I tried the patcher program and it just crashed

From your photos it looks like you tried it in the 060 mode? I doubt the dongle patch was aimed to run on a 060 machine (usage of self-modifying code would be my guess for the crashes).

The cache calls are now for the 68060.

If done in a sane manner, this should be harmless on the DFB/030 (but also useless).

The internal DSP functions are modified (hansdhake).

Yes, this sounds helpful.

You must install EXCEP060.PRG inside the AUTO folder for fix the format error.

I think this applies only to MagiC, EXCEP060 is integrated into CT60 TOS.

If there's some interest, I can try running Cubase + that song on my CT2 Falcon which has very similar characteristics as the DFB. But I'd need the complete archive + a guide for idiots, I don't know absolute anything about Cubase.

[exxos]

If there's some interest, I can try running Cubase + that song on my CT2 Falcon which has very similar characteristics as the DFB. But I'd need the complete archive + a guide for idiots, I don't know absolute anything about Cubase.

I just download cubase and crack 206 from that site I posted yesterday.. I can't even get the program to load hardly on the DFB1X.

if @whomper allows, I can zip my folders up. You have to run from SCSI drive. Loading of song is simply as file open and click play.

https://sites.google.com/view/ataritosser/downloads

[viking272]

With the DFB1X, it hardly finishes loading the program before it locks up.
So ... dunno... We may have to mark cubase as not fixable if its geared only for stock machines :(

So this video shows a studio running Cubase Audio on a CT63 (but not the cracked version):


If I can have a copy of the song and a guide @whomper then I might also be able to run some tests next week with my Falcon and a DFB1X (it arrived today, thanks Exxos!).

[exxos]

So this video shows a studio running Cubase Audio on a CT63 (but not the cracked version):

What version are you running and patches etc ? @whomper is using 206. It help if you could try the same version cracked from that site.. But it needs the patches done as well. I gave up with it.

https://sites.google.com/view/ataritosser/downloads

[exxos]

Small discovery. I found out that with DFB1X and clock V3, if I configured V3 with no delay, I am getting digital bit crushing really fast, however if I add the delay, it takes a while before digital bit crushing starts.

Did you try the extra delay jumper as well?

I think the clock patch isn't just buffering the clocks. The inversion is needed to fix some timing problem with SDMA transfer. I just assume it's outputting data to early and causing some odd bus conflict or something.

[whomper]

Probably best to disable DFB1X (or at least don't declare TT-RAM) if you have it in.

I need to use the ALTRAMFX.PRG in the AUTO folder as otherwise the machine crashes when working with SCSI, even with 12.53.I think it limits buffer size to 64K.

I've just seen the new 12.7 with special support for acceleration card and a comment that ALTRAMFX is not needed anymore and it can be loaded into TT Ram. I'll install today and test.