Yeah I've posted about DOTT it doesn't like my modified TOS206... No idea why.coonsgm wrote: 06 Jun 2025 03:26 Just a quick update on the new STE I'm testing on.
Works identically to my first STE using firmware current13. Under EmuTOS everything runs perfectly. Under modified TOS 2.06 most working just great. DOTT crashes in TOS 2.06, but not EmuTOS.
I was kind of hoping for a different result, but on the positive side...the results are repeatable.
ST536 STE EDITION
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I started fiddling with my patched 206. It seems something in the PAK patches is causing the problem. If I force a 68030 build, DOTT works in Hatari. With the PAK patches enabled, it does the "normal" thing of just resets when loading DOTT.
Though with a 030 CPU, the TOS *should* patch the cache stuff itself.. but its hard to tell much at this point.. TOS is a lot of code to follow though..
My only thought currently is to just find where all the cache stuff is and force enable without using the PAK switches to do it. As it must be breaking something else somewhere.. Mostly TOS206 is fine other than the cache issue.. So that's my thought for a new TOS build..
EDIT
Actually some good fortune :hide:
030 CPU enables the caches anyway! So I suppose I could release this build "as is" as it should work as a patched TOS206 anyway now..
I will keep looking through the code to make sure nothing obvious got missed but hopefully it will that simple....
I guess my thought process was, PAK is a 030, enabling PAK stuff makes sense.
Or maybe I should have simply thought more dumb, that is not a PAK, so don't enable it :lol:
Anyway, I suppose I need to build a new ROM image now, perfect excuse to grab the latest EMUTOS as well.
Then I can see what broke after fixing it... :lol: :roll:
Though with a 030 CPU, the TOS *should* patch the cache stuff itself.. but its hard to tell much at this point.. TOS is a lot of code to follow though..
My only thought currently is to just find where all the cache stuff is and force enable without using the PAK switches to do it. As it must be breaking something else somewhere.. Mostly TOS206 is fine other than the cache issue.. So that's my thought for a new TOS build..
EDIT
Actually some good fortune :hide:
030 CPU enables the caches anyway! So I suppose I could release this build "as is" as it should work as a patched TOS206 anyway now..
I will keep looking through the code to make sure nothing obvious got missed but hopefully it will that simple....
I guess my thought process was, PAK is a 030, enabling PAK stuff makes sense.
Or maybe I should have simply thought more dumb, that is not a PAK, so don't enable it :lol:
Anyway, I suppose I need to build a new ROM image now, perfect excuse to grab the latest EMUTOS as well.
Then I can see what broke after fixing it... :lol: :roll:
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
Does the PAK have more than one kind of cache? e.g. a L2 cache on the board? Flushing something like that would probably crash a non-PAK system.
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Good thought, I don't believe it has a L2.. For all intents and purposes I don't think it's any different than the STE536 really.. At the end of the day is just a 030 CPU.dml wrote: 06 Jun 2025 10:35 Does the PAK have more than one kind of cache? e.g. a L2 cache on the board? Flushing something like that would probably crash a non-PAK system.
They must be something rather subtle because the problem only seems to happen with DOTT... It's not TTram related as DOTT crashes without TTram anyway.
I did wonder if there is something relating to 32-bit address fixes or something else DOTT seems to "wonder off" into trying to access the cartridge port by what I can tell. But then surely TTram wouldn't work at all, or have been other signs by now..
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My first find were not sure what's going on...
TP_50 = 1 for PAK stuff enabled.
Also
"/* disable PMMU and address translation */" I presume would get run as TP_50 is now 0 .
TP_50 = 1 for PAK stuff enabled.
Also
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#if TP_50
/*
* SE: (26.10.93)
* Das gleiche Prozessorunabhngig:
* MMU-Deinitialisierung vor Kaltstart.
*/
lea coldboo0(pc),a0
move.l a0,ABSW(_illinst)
move.l a0,ABSW(_lineftrap)
lea zero2,a0
TO_TC_A0
TO_TTR0_A0
TO_TTR1_A0
coldboo0:
#else
TO_TC(zero2) /* disable PMMU and address translation */
TO_TTR0(zero2)
TO_TTR1(zero2)
#endif
/* copy erase routine to low memory */
move.w #(coldbend-coldboor+3)/4-1,d0
lea.l coldboor(pc),a0
movea.w #$00c,a1
coldboo1:
move.l (a0)+,(a1)+
dbf d0,coldboo1
jmp ABSW($0000000C)
/* clear ST memory until buserror */
coldboor:
lea.l coldboo4(pc),a0
move.l a0,ABSW(_buserror)
lea.l coldboo6(pc),a0
moveq.l #0,d0
coldboo3:
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
bra.s coldboo3
/* clear FASTRAM until buserror */
coldboo4:
move.l ABSW($00000004),ABSW(_buserror)
lea.l FASTRAMBASE,a0
coldboo5:
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
move.l d0,(a0)+
bra.s coldboo5
coldboo6:
nop
coldbend: ds.b 0
data
zero2: dc.l 0
text
#endif /* TOSVERSION > 0x200 */
#endif /* TOSVERSION > 0x300 */
#endif /* STBOOK */
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
In case it helps, you can clear the 030 caches yourself.
cacr control register reference can be found here: page 6-21
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/reference-m ... 8030UM.pdf
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movec cacr,d0 ; read cache control reg.
or.w #$808,d0 ; set CD (clear data) + CI (clear instruction) cache bits
movec d0,cacr ; write cache control reg.cacr control register reference can be found here: page 6-21
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/reference-m ... 8030UM.pdf
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AGT project: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_agt.py
Atari page: http://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_atari.py
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@dmlTPT
BadMooD d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_bm.py
SVO30 d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_svo30.py
Q2 engine d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_q2.py
AGT project: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_agt.py
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
Thanks, yeah there is a flushcaches routine somewhere in TOS..dml wrote: 06 Jun 2025 10:51 In case it helps, you can clear the 030 caches yourself.
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movec cacr,d0 ; read cache control reg. or.w #$808,d0 ; set CD (clear data) + CI (clear instruction) cache bits movec d0,cacr ; write cache control reg.
cacr control register reference can be found here: page 6-21
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/reference-m ... 8030UM.pdf
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flushCaches:
move.w sr,-(a7)
ori.w #$0700,sr
CACR_D0
or.l #$00000808,d0 /* CI (Clear Instruction Cache), DI (Clear Data Cache) */
D0_CACR
move.w (a7)+,sr
rts
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More PMMU related stuff..
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
That TP_50 stuff is doing something with fastram detect/init/clearing/setup on a reset, or something like that. With or without TP_50 its still disabling MMU page table translation just declaring it in a different way.
[crossing posts!]
The later pasted code shows it's skipping MMU setup on a reset so it probably installed its own MMU pagetables - for FastRAM or for ROM shadowing in FastRAM and doesn't want it zapped on a reset.
[crossing posts!]
The later pasted code shows it's skipping MMU setup on a reset so it probably installed its own MMU pagetables - for FastRAM or for ROM shadowing in FastRAM and doesn't want it zapped on a reset.
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SVO30 d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_svo30.py
Q2 engine d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_q2.py
AGT project: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_agt.py
Atari page: http://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_atari.py
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@dmlTPT
BadMooD d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_bm.py
SVO30 d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_svo30.py
Q2 engine d/l: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_q2.py
AGT project: https://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_agt.py
Atari page: http://www.leonik.net/dml/sec_atari.py
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@dmlTPT
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
Yeah could well be. I guess thats another thing if to clear the stuff on reset or not.dml wrote: 06 Jun 2025 10:55 The later pasted code shows it's skipping MMU setup on a reset so it probably installed its own MMU pagetables - for FastRAM or for ROM shadowing in FastRAM and doesn't want it zapped on a reset.
I'm still looking, but most of the PAK stuff so far is MMU related it seems. There must be something PAK does which I don't know about which the patches don't like on the 536 :shrug:
Also this
A few other bits here and there in TOS but nothing "important". So the biggest changes look to be MMU type stuff.
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