Well, I found what appeared to be a reasonable Wonderswan Colour that would make a good candidate for repairs at the very reasonable price of £26:
But when it arrived I was immediately suspicious due to an overriding smell of mould!!!
I went to install a cartridge only to find the cart slot was so badly damaged that the cart would not go in.
Thankfully the cart, which didn't come with it and was one I already had, is fine.
Viewing from the outside, the brown locking bar for the screen connector was missing:
And looking inside there was corrosion everywhere:
Luckily the seller has been super reasonable and I'm down the path of returning it at their cost, so no complaints there.
Definitely not as described - 'Good Condition' and certainly no use for spares or repairs.
But here's the danger of eBay. Not all images are representative of the real condition, and not all eBay sellers are as reasonable as this one.
Very annoying, and a bit surprising since the seller has good feedback and sells a lot of similar items on eBay.
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HigashiJun
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
'Good condition' doesn't seem to have the same meaning for everyone...
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Steve
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
Yeah, I used to be under the impression that if the item is sold as anything but 'for parts or not working' you couldn't return. But I did some research (on eBay forums) apparently when a buyer requests a return, the seller has to accept it no matter what. This was news to me, even though I've been selling on eBay for years and have around 900 positive feedback. It's just nice in this case that the seller was a nice person to deal with.
So yeah, apparently as a buyer there seriously is no risk at all any more. Just make sure the seller has a good positive rating.
But as a seller I do think it's a bit weird ... what is the point of being able to put 'Returns not accepted' on your listing, also selling as 'parts or not working' in conjunction with that, when if the buyer really wants they can get their money back lol :)
(ps - I totally agree with your situation of course, definitely deserved a refund! Just chatting about stuff I've found out recently. Your refund would definitely come under 'Not as described' as the reason!)
So yeah, apparently as a buyer there seriously is no risk at all any more. Just make sure the seller has a good positive rating.
But as a seller I do think it's a bit weird ... what is the point of being able to put 'Returns not accepted' on your listing, also selling as 'parts or not working' in conjunction with that, when if the buyer really wants they can get their money back lol :)
(ps - I totally agree with your situation of course, definitely deserved a refund! Just chatting about stuff I've found out recently. Your refund would definitely come under 'Not as described' as the reason!)
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
I guess it could be to discourage buyers to even get the idea of returning it. You know, you buy it, it doesn't work, seller listed it as "as is, no returns", so you just cope with that. You don't start googling how to return it anyway.
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
No, it certainly does not!!!HigashiJun wrote: 04 Jul 2024 02:43 'Good condition' doesn't seem to have the same meaning for everyone...
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
Yep, 100% not as described, the corrosion is so bad there is no hope of even reviving it with a new case and screen, and as for the cartridge port...Steve wrote: 04 Jul 2024 08:03 Yeah, I used to be under the impression that if the item is sold as anything but 'for parts or not working' you couldn't return. But I did some research (on eBay forums) apparently when a buyer requests a return, the seller has to accept it no matter what. This was news to me, even though I've been selling on eBay for years and have around 900 positive feedback. It's just nice in this case that the seller was a nice person to deal with.
So yeah, apparently as a buyer there seriously is no risk at all any more. Just make sure the seller has a good positive rating.
But as a seller I do think it's a bit weird ... what is the point of being able to put 'Returns not accepted' on your listing, also selling as 'parts or not working' in conjunction with that, when if the buyer really wants they can get their money back lol :)
(ps - I totally agree with your situation of course, definitely deserved a refund! Just chatting about stuff I've found out recently. Your refund would definitely come under 'Not as described' as the reason!)
I'm pretty sure it had been under water for at least a little while...
Ebay do some weird things though, often quite contrary as you've described, but I have to say this seller was great and said send it back right away and provided a postage label. I have my doubts about other sellers though, like the one who put my other 2 Wonderswans (A B&W and a colour) in a padded envelope but left them floating around inside with no padding so they could have easily damaged each other. When I gave him neutral feedback, he got stroppy.
Sellers need to realise that as soon as you've paid, you should treat the items as owned by somebody else and treat them respectfully and pack properly.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
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Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
That's definitely a possibility.mikro wrote: 04 Jul 2024 09:13 I guess it could be to discourage buyers to even get the idea of returning it. You know, you buy it, it doesn't work, seller listed it as "as is, no returns", so you just cope with that. You don't start googling how to return it anyway.
At least in my case it wasn't as described so they had to accept it back.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
Then there are the buyers who return a broken item of the same type (but not the original) or even something completely different, or remove valuable parts from the item and declare is "faulty".
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Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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Re: eBay - Sometimes it gives, sometimes it takes...
Indeed there are. I'm not one of those though :)stephen_usher wrote: 04 Jul 2024 12:03 Then there are the buyers who return a broken item of the same type (but not the original) or even something completely different, or remove valuable parts from the item and declare is "faulty".
My worry is that it will appear again on eBay for sale. IMHO it is unrecoverable.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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