I always like to be sure people are prepared to work on PSUs as they can be a bit of a pain :)Groppo91 wrote: 30 Mar 2024 11:51Thankyou, I did electronics as part of my qualification but was back in 2010 so have a small understanding and feel happy testing it/ replacing part. One of the transistors has been swapped as part of the recap process so will test the remaining one when I get a moment.rubber_jonnie wrote: 30 Mar 2024 10:37
It's certainly possible that the schematics don't show it as fusible, but it definitely is and it's fusible for a reason. I used a Bourns in one of mine.
No the item marked TDK is a transformer, the transistors are the items connected to the heatsinks and are better tested removed from the board, but shouldn't be mixed up. I would say that if you're not sure about what the components are, then you probably shouldn't be working on PSUs, they can bite you badly.
I don't mean this in a mean way by the way, but having been bitten by various PSUs over the years, my advice is usually if you're not sure, don't touch them. It's your choice of course, but I always err on the side of safety first.
Dead psu where to start diagnosing?
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Re: Dead psu where to start diagnosing?
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Dead psu where to start diagnosing?
Update on the PSU,
I have put that one aside for now and stripped out my other one which had cracked board and decided to fit a pico psu using the original switch. I now have a working psu to test the 3 Atari computers that I picked up. So far managed to boot 2 from the new psu yet to try the last one. So that is an stfm and an ste which boot fine. The mouse I have didnt seem to work with the usb adapter I found an old school mouse that has a switch for amiga and st which has broken parts but works enough to test the ataris. One floppy drive seems to be faulty, the keyboards I think one is faulty as the alt arrows did nothing. The other one moves the cursor but seems to lock up.
I have purchased the diagnostic cart from the store to hopefully check everything a bit further, not sure how to use it yet but look forward to the arrival. My next purchase will be some device to allow me to run software/games from usb/hdd not sure what my options are in this space so any recommendations would be great.
I have put that one aside for now and stripped out my other one which had cracked board and decided to fit a pico psu using the original switch. I now have a working psu to test the 3 Atari computers that I picked up. So far managed to boot 2 from the new psu yet to try the last one. So that is an stfm and an ste which boot fine. The mouse I have didnt seem to work with the usb adapter I found an old school mouse that has a switch for amiga and st which has broken parts but works enough to test the ataris. One floppy drive seems to be faulty, the keyboards I think one is faulty as the alt arrows did nothing. The other one moves the cursor but seems to lock up.
I have purchased the diagnostic cart from the store to hopefully check everything a bit further, not sure how to use it yet but look forward to the arrival. My next purchase will be some device to allow me to run software/games from usb/hdd not sure what my options are in this space so any recommendations would be great.
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https://bbansolutions.co.uk/ is a hard drive I can recommend. Atari world seems a bit flooded with all sorts of drives lately though. But I can vouch for bban as I did a lot of testing personally. It's one of the cheapest as well.
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Ah thankyou, wished I saw that before placing my order earlier. I am new to it all so documentation is a big thing for me to learn. I see the user manual is still in draft mode for that one. I take it the device replaces the floppy drive?exxos wrote: 12 Apr 2024 14:38 https://bbansolutions.co.uk/ is a hard drive I can recommend. Atari world seems a bit flooded with all sorts of drives lately though. But I can vouch for bban as I did a lot of testing personally. It's one of the cheapest as well.
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It plugs into the Hard drive port on the back of the ST. You need the floppy to copy files to it. Unless your buy a better driver like HD11 to allow files to be copied to the SD card directly.Groppo91 wrote: 12 Apr 2024 15:50 Ah thankyou, wished I saw that before placing my order earlier. I am new to it all so documentation is a big thing for me to learn. I see the user manual is still in draft mode for that one. I take it the device replaces the floppy drive?
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Oh cool I see what is the benefit to hdd over something like a floppy emulator?exxos wrote: 12 Apr 2024 15:55It plugs into the Hard drive port on the back of the ST. You need the floppy to copy files to it. Unless your buy a better driver like HD11 to allow files to be copied to the SD card directly.Groppo91 wrote: 12 Apr 2024 15:50 Ah thankyou, wished I saw that before placing my order earlier. I am new to it all so documentation is a big thing for me to learn. I see the user manual is still in draft mode for that one. I take it the device replaces the floppy drive?
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Not something I can personally answer. I don't use a floppy emulator. Comparing a hard drive to a floppy emulator is really down to personal preference and usage. It's one of those things like trying to compare petrol and diesel engines to me. Maybe someone else can list the pros and cons but I don't believe anyone ever has.Groppo91 wrote: 12 Apr 2024 16:11 Oh cool I see what is the benefit to hdd over something like a floppy emulator?
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