A Grand Day Out

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Re: A Grand Day Out

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Lumafix 128 is on order, but it'll be a while before it arrives, so today I'll reassemble the C128. Photos to follow.
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And all back together :)

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So next up will be the Lumafix when it arrives :)

It's interesting that the C64 image is so clear compared to the C128, but they have different video subsystems. I also found out that if you accidentally boot with the 40/80 column switch down, it looks like it's faulty when it isn't!
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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So I said that the C64 display was much clearer than the C128 side, and it is, but there can be a bit of variance, and compared to my bread bin C64 which has a fantastic picture, it's a bit poor and has some jailbars.

It also does vary from time to time.

So, C64 Lumafix is on the way now too.
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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I didn't find that the Lumafix helped with my C64, it actually made things worse. I think that it depends upon the machine, VIC-II version and what you determine as "better". The Lumafix merely adjusts the relative balance of the colours to get an acceptable compromise.
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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stephen_usher wrote: 05 Mar 2024 10:51 I didn't find that the Lumafix helped with my C64, it actually made things worse. I think that it depends upon the machine, VIC-II version and what you determine as "better". The Lumafix merely adjusts the relative balance of the colours to get an acceptable compromise.
Understood. I will see how it goes and if it helps great, if not I'll have to live with it. Really hoping the C128 version helps because the image is terrible!
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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That looks perfectly normal for a C128 actually.

Remember that it would look a lot better on a CRT as the colours aren't discrete and there's more smearing.
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stephen_usher wrote: 05 Mar 2024 10:56 That looks perfectly normal for a C128 actually.

Remember that it would look a lot better on a CRT as the colours aren't discrete and there's more smearing.
Yeah, I know, I just don't have any CRTs, well other than the OPD display, so I know it's a bit of a stretch. I would try and find something like a 1084S, but prices are silly ATM, and I don't have a lot of space for one believe it or not.
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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And the Lumafix128 ahs arrived!!

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Have to say I am impressed by the packaging and the whole overall kit. it's way more than I was expecting. It even came with a tiny screwdriver for the pots!

Hopefully I'll find some time over the next few days to get it installed and adjusted.

I think I made a booboo with the Lumafix64, the C128 uses a different VIC I think for the 64 side of things, but we'll see when I open it up.

If it won't fit in the 128 then I do have 2 other 64's I can use it in, so it's no loss.
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Re: A Grand Day Out

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Re: A Grand Day Out

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I only own a C128D (that has not seen the light of day for a long time) but out of curiosity why did you choose "LumaFix128"?

I have been considering an luma pickup board VICdizer128 + RGBTOHDMI?

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https://www.tindie.com/products/c0pperd ... -lumacode/
https://www.tindie.com/products/c0pperd ... rod_search

It's a tad expensive at $100 for the full kit but the RGB2HDMI box is reusable across multiple computers C64/128/Atari 800/Apple II/Ti99/MSX/CoCo etc. they just need individual pickup boards.
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