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Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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Your journey to mouse balls seems not to be over yet...

8-)
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HigashiJun wrote: 30 Mar 2023 11:57 Your journey to mouse balls seems not to be over yet...

8-)
It isn't, and I heard back from a Chinese supplier who can supply 20mm rubber coated balls, however the postage cost for samples is $36 and the balls are only 40c a unit. I don't want to order a hundred without seeing a sample TBH so that's not going to work for me.

I'll keep at it myself.
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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The alternative is that you buy these... :-)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/IKAYAS-Balls-C ... hdGY&psc=1
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stephen_usher wrote: 30 Mar 2023 12:35 The alternative is that you buy these... :-)
I think it was ruled they were not quite round enough nor heavy enough. And too fun.
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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stephen_usher wrote: 30 Mar 2023 12:35 The alternative is that you buy these... :-)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/IKAYAS-Balls-C ... hdGY&psc=1
Believe it or not I had these in my basket the other day, but when I looked closely at the image the seams were really quite terrible, and in fact much worse than the ones that arrived today, so I took them out, though I am considering revisiting.
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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rubber_jonnie wrote: 30 Mar 2023 12:13 the postage cost for samples is $36 and the balls are only 40c a unit.
:lol:
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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Ok, so I've decided to have another crack at this. Doing some digging and there are metal powders available for cold casting.

So I've ordered some and I'll try casting another ball, but this time a mix of resin and metal powder, the idea being that it'll add just enough extra weight to be comparable with the original ball, and will hopefully work.

I'll update when I've had a chance to give it a go.
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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Good idea and really worth trying.
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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I can't remember if you tried a 20mm ball bearing like this: https://www.ballandrollerstore.com/modu ... rome-steel
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Re: Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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stephen_usher wrote: 29 Dec 2023 12:02 I can't remember if you tried a 20mm ball bearing like this: https://www.ballandrollerstore.com/modu ... rome-steel
I did, and it fits perfectly, just doesn't grip the rollers. I also tried Delrin, perfect size and texture but too light.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...

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