Interesting, I didn't get trace damage that far over IIRC, the battery bombs are very indiscriminate.HigashiJun wrote: 04 Dec 2023 07:22 Last (?) repair done...
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That one was quite tough, but it spared me from de-soldering the whole connector.
I just hope there are no other broken traces under it.
ACORN A5000 inbound
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
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Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Yes, like for the 2 traces at the back of the motherboard...rubber_jonnie wrote: 04 Dec 2023 09:18 Interesting, I didn't get trace damage that far over IIRC, the battery bombs are very indiscriminate.
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The M-PF7 I have is made in Taiwan...rubber_jonnie wrote: 04 Dec 2023 09:17 I have an M-PF7 from Logitech which I use with the A5000 and the ball is too big for the Acorn mouse, and I've tried a number of period mice. from generic types to branded, including period Apple mice, and all are too big.
The Acorn mouse is oddly made in Switzerland, so I call it the 'Swiss Cheese' mouse as it is a wedge shape :)
What is the model of the other Acorn mouse you have ?
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As is my M-PF7.HigashiJun wrote: 04 Dec 2023 09:55The M-PF7 I have is made in Taiwan...rubber_jonnie wrote: 04 Dec 2023 09:17 I have an M-PF7 from Logitech which I use with the A5000 and the ball is too big for the Acorn mouse, and I've tried a number of period mice. from generic types to branded, including period Apple mice, and all are too big.
The Acorn mouse is oddly made in Switzerland, so I call it the 'Swiss Cheese' mouse as it is a wedge shape :)
What is the model of the other Acorn mouse you have ?
The other mouse is as follows:
In the last image the Swiss Acorn mouse is at the top, Logitech on the bottom. They are very similar. As you can see, the Acorn mouse isn't well marked, other than 'ACORN 0176,003'.
There seems to be very little info on it.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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The other mouse you have is a "Type 1" according to Chris's Acorns:
http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org ... mouse.html
This one has a really weird ball, which seems prone to disintegration...
Just check below:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124225258266?h ... R6DnkMaGYw
I really don't think there's a ball compatible with it, apart one from the AMX mouse.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175852711887?h ... R7qgtsaGYw
The other mouse you have is a "Type 1" according to Chris's Acorns:
http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org ... mouse.html
This one has a really weird ball, which seems prone to disintegration...
Just check below:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124225258266?h ... R6DnkMaGYw
I really don't think there's a ball compatible with it, apart one from the AMX mouse.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175852711887?h ... R7qgtsaGYw
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Yes that first one is the same as mine with the same disintegrating ball as mine sadly. I much prefer the shape over the Logitech, but what can you do?HigashiJun wrote: 04 Dec 2023 10:39 @rubber_jonnie
The other mouse you have is a "Type 1" according to Chris's Acorns:
http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org ... mouse.html
This one has a really weird ball, which seems prone to disintegration...
Just check below:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124225258266?h ... R6DnkMaGYw
I really don't think there's a ball compatible with it, apart one from the AMX mouse.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175852711887?h ... R7qgtsaGYw
As for the AMX mouse, that is interesting, it looks much the same shape/size etc, but the ball looks more normal, like a rubberised steel ball.
I feel that if I can get more weight into the resin it could work really well as the ball I made did fit, it just wasn't heavy enough.
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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@rubber_jonnie
Seems the AMX ball is the same crap when looking at Chris's Acorn website, but a bit darker.
I wonder if a steel ball would work in your mouse, like in the BBC stuff:
https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.or ... Mouse.html
The only problem is to find the right diameter...
Seems the AMX ball is the same crap when looking at Chris's Acorn website, but a bit darker.
I wonder if a steel ball would work in your mouse, like in the BBC stuff:
https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.or ... Mouse.html
The only problem is to find the right diameter...
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I have a steel ball, but it doesn't grip the surface or the rollers very well. I did put silicone tubing on the rollers and it helped, but it won't grip the desk surface, even after roughing it up.HigashiJun wrote: 04 Dec 2023 11:38 @rubber_jonnie
Seems the AMX ball is the same crap when looking at Chris's Acorn website, but a bit darker.
I wonder if a steel ball would work in your mouse, like in the BBC stuff:
https://chrisacorns.computinghistory.or ... Mouse.html
The only problem is to find the right diameter...
I have also tried a delrin ball, but that was too light as well. Diameter is 20mm, much smaller than any other mice I have.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Hmm, not so easy indeed...
Hmm, not so easy indeed...
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Was quite disappointed with the previous result, so I have decided to remove the insulated "traces" and connect them instead at the back of the motherboard:
The final result is neater than my previous job...
And yes, overcoat epoxy is starting to cover the repaired traces.
The repair should be over soon.
:D
The final result is neater than my previous job...
And yes, overcoat epoxy is starting to cover the repaired traces.
The repair should be over soon.
:D
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