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Adding RAM, sockets Y/N

Upgrade your RAM from ST to Falcon.
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Adding RAM, sockets Y/N

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Planning on adding 512MB RAM to a 520STFM which uses 16 pin DIL RAM chips.

Question is whether to use sockets or not?

Opinions welcome before I proceed.
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I'd use sockets as ram chips can go bad sometimes, easier to swap out. But honestly if I was going to that kind of effort in an STfm I'd prefer to fit this 4mb board: https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/atari/store2/#0020

But yeah, you'll need a lot of sockets for 512MB of ram! :lol:
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I always fit sockets. As RAM is prone to fail, it makes life easier to fix later on.
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Thanks for the advice chaps.

Given that I wasn't aware that RAM chips can often go bad and I already have sufficient sockets in my spares box, I'll use sockets. I've checked that there is enough clearance under the PSU (board is a C070789)

The 4MB upgrade looked interesting but I'm loath to unsolder the existing RAM or use one of these piggyback boards. It also looks quite intrusive re cutting the shield etc.

I also think that 1MB should be enough for my needs.
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@Slartibartfast Yeah if you mainly wanting to play old games 1mb is generally enough, as long as you use floppy disks or a Gotek. If you go down the hard disk route, like an ultrasatan or something, then you'll be better with 2mb+ since hard disk adapted games need more memory.
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Aside from adding sockets, which is always a good idea when adding or replacing ICs, don't forget to add decoupling capacitors and the extra resistors needed too.
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 9:36 pm Aside from adding sockets, which is always a good idea when adding or replacing ICs, don't forget to add decoupling capacitors and the extra resistors needed too.
I ordered the capacitors when I ordered the RAM from EXXOS (fast delivery thanks), and have suitable resistors in my junk box.

I have a Gotek drive already so don't plan on going down the hard drive route but thanks for the 'heads up'.
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Slartibartfast wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 10:47 am
I ordered the capacitors when I ordered the RAM from EXXOS (fast delivery thanks), and have suitable resistors in my junk box.
Good stuff.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
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