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It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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HigashiJun wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 9:51 am
rubber_jonnie wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 7:52 am No merlot involved in this one, just not paying attention.
That's what you say...

;)
To be fair I ordered it the day before I went to France, so I am confident that Merlot wasn't involved 😁
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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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Well, the missing DIP package is on the way for the through hole CDP1861 and all the SMD parts from DigiKey arrived too, so I can give the SMD CDP1861 another go soon too :)
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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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Still no DIP package for the through hole CDP1861 replacement...

However my shipment from Digikey for more SMD parts did arrive and I built a new one:

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And I get video out, of sorts...

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And what looks like a video signal on the scope:

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So looking positive, but still work to do.
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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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Slowly but surely, that's how @rubber_jonnie builds his new goody...

:lol:
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HigashiJun wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 11:25 pm Slowly but surely, that's how @rubber_jonnie builds his new goody...

:lol:
Hehehe

He's a poet and he doesn't know it :)
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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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rubber_jonnie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 11:27 pm Hehehe

He's a poet and he doesn't know it :)
Money, get back
I'm all right, Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
New car
Caviar
Four-star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team.


Absolute rubbish, laddie !


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HigashiJun wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 2:28 am
rubber_jonnie wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 11:27 pm Hehehe

He's a poet and he doesn't know it :)
Money, get back
I'm all right, Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
New car
Caviar
Four-star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team.


Absolute rubbish, laddie !


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Who doesn't like a bit of Pink Floyd :)
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Re: It's long overdue - Cosmac Elf II build

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Hmm... no backporch, is there? Just like the ZX81. So maybe the display can't handle it?
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 9:18 am Hmm... no backporch, is there? Just like the ZX81. So maybe the display can't handle it?
Yes, I noticed that as well. I do have some ZX81 composite modules that add a back porch so I might rig one up to see if it'll improve things.

However I did also read that there is supposedly some setup needs doing before the display works as expected. There are also some jumpers I need to figure out, so I'll go down that avenue before I hook up a module.

We'll see, I'll have a think about what's easiest :)

Also hopefully the DIP IC for the through hole CDP1861 will come today (Please!!!) and I can see what the results are like with that.
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Hmm interesting.

I wondered if the original CDP1861 I built had something wrong with the PCB, so I slowly pulled the components off and it wasn't until I had just one or two items left over that the machine worked as normal.

So I built a 3rd using the original components - it does exactly the same thing...

So I think my Ali Express GALs are fake :(

I have 2 more from DigiKey, so I'll get those programmed at some point and install, see if it works then. My other SMD board, no 2, built from DigiKey parts seems to be working (Ish) so I need to figure out what's what as it clearly isn't the PCB.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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