Can all registered uses please login, even just for a few minutes..
It helps build a picture where our "good traffic" is coming from..
Thanks :)

My summer project: A colour Stacy

General discussions or ideas about hardware.
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

I haven't had any more time yet to play with this switching setup, although I do notice that the mux wiring that I built is identical to the mux wiring in c't's configuration. The mux IC is very slightly different, but I would imagine inconsequentially.

However, the c't switcher has this at the top:

Screenshot 2020-08-03 at 10.30.03.png
Screenshot 2020-08-03 at 10.30.03.png (71.15 KiB) Viewed 3862 times

Does anyone know what is the function of the connected GAL on the PAK board?
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

A lesson was learned tonight: Do not accidentally connect BR to +5V when your CPLD is a 3.3V device. :lol:

So, I toasted the Xilinx chip on the TF536. Luckily I bought one spare when buying the chips for the TF cards I'm going to build up myself, so I pulled off the dead one and stuck on a new one, no problems there.

But I think I maybe don't have any hardware that can program it. I've got a TL866II PLUS, a PICKit 3, and a USB Blaster. Can any of these program the Xilinx CPLD, or do I need to acquire yet another programmer?
User avatar
exxos
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 28669
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:19 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by exxos »

I thought those chips were 5V tolerant ?
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

exxos wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:18 pm I thought those chips were 5V tolerant ?
I saw something on the datasheet about being 5V tolerant for programming. Don't know if it is tolerant on the whole bus. (I was wondering about that, though, since obviously it's sitting on a 5V bus, so it seemed strange that putting 5V on BR would be a problem.)

In any case, I did break it. I was using the Stacy internal DMA bus for grounding BR, and mistakenly put it on a +5V pin, which is right next to GND, and the TF quit. I noticed after that that the regulator was running really hot and producing only around 1V on its output, and 3V3 and GND were shorted. I checked the regulator and the accompanying caps and they were fine, so CPLD was the next thing to test. The short went away when I pulled off the old CPLD, and with the new CPLD on, the regulator is back to producing 3.3V.
User avatar
PhilC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7522
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:22 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by PhilC »

@derkom you can program them with a raspberry pi but not tried that myself. There's a guide on here somewhere I think?

P.s. hopefully the ram has survived too.
If it ain't broke, test it to Destruction.
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

PhilC wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:36 pm @derkom you can program them with a raspberry pi but not tried that myself. There's a guide on here somewhere I think?
I see a couple of those projects (OpenOCD, xc3sprog), but it looks like I'll still need a cable I don't own.
P.s. hopefully the ram has survived too.
Indeed, although I do have the chips for my other boards if need be.
czietz
Posts: 587
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:02 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by czietz »

derkom wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:36 am Does anyone know what is the function of the connected GAL on the PAK board?
It's described in the c't article that was posted: it drives /AS, /LDS, /UDS and /VMA on the PAK. The additional gate makes these output go high-Z.
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

czietz wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:57 pm It's described in the c't article that was posted: it drives /AS, /LDS, /UDS and /VMA on the PAK. The additional gate makes these output go high-Z.
Ah, thanks. I missed that in the article.
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

I see that I can get a proper Xilinx programmer for not too much, but of course that won't help me tonight. :D Probably a good idea to have one anyway, for firmware updates, etc.

I'm running right up to my summer holiday, so I'm afraid all of this is about to go on hold for a couple of weeks anyway, and then I'll get ahold of the Xilinx programmer and pick up where I left off.
User avatar
derkom
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1232
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:45 pm

Re: My summer project: A colour Stacy

Post by derkom »

Okay this turned out to be a lot easier than I thought, once I was directed to the right information. I've got the firmware on the new CPLD and the TF once again boots. I can't easily check the RAM at the moment, but will figure that part out eventually.
Post Reply

Return to “HARDWARE DISCUSSIONS”