Using my worst Paint skills I did a quick edit to the one in the middle:
So essentially inverting what was there. Definitely not back porching correctly as the two either side are what it actually looks like.
Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
OK, so I took the board out of the modulator can and swapped the transistors for what the original design called for and then did another lash up:
Which included a transistor mod on the output side. Interestingly I now get a better looking signal:
Blue is input from the ZX80, yellow is the output side of the mod board. There is some back porch now, and I am almost getting an image, it's slightly better than before, but not quite there. Also odd is that the original signal from the ZX80 appears to have a very minimal back porch, which I'd not noticed before.
The seller has given me both a refund and sent another board, which is amazing and I'm very grateful for such a brilliant response.
After several recommendations I have ordered a ZX8-CCB, so we'll see how that pans out when it arrives.
Which included a transistor mod on the output side. Interestingly I now get a better looking signal:
Blue is input from the ZX80, yellow is the output side of the mod board. There is some back porch now, and I am almost getting an image, it's slightly better than before, but not quite there. Also odd is that the original signal from the ZX80 appears to have a very minimal back porch, which I'd not noticed before.
The seller has given me both a refund and sent another board, which is amazing and I'm very grateful for such a brilliant response.
After several recommendations I have ordered a ZX8-CCB, so we'll see how that pans out when it arrives.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
OK, so the ZX8-CCB is in the post, lets hope it's the answer I am looking for. It's coming from Germany so may take a little while to arrive.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
Just had an email that the ZX8-CCB will be arriving today, so hopefully I can put this project to bed in time to bring it to CL4 :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
Well, Royal Mail, more like Royal Fail!!
No ZX8-CCB yesterday, and the letter post has been super erratic, though my wife actually had a next day delivery parcel arrive on time via Royal Mail yesterday.
Really don't get why the post has gone to :shite: again...
No ZX8-CCB yesterday, and the letter post has been super erratic, though my wife actually had a next day delivery parcel arrive on time via Royal Mail yesterday.
Really don't get why the post has gone to :shite: again...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
Oh no...
I was expecting some good feedback from you today.
:(
I was expecting some good feedback from you today.
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
I was hoping I could give some...
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
Well it seems my moan worked and a bunch of post arrived today, including the ZX8-CCB which I hooked up immediately:
Whilst it's a step forward, something is still wrong. After a bit of adjustment I get a nice clear white background
But no K cursor. Video signal is nice and I have a good back porch. Yellow is the output from the ZX8-CCB, blue is the input from the ZX80 into the Z8-CCB
It's more of a signal than I've had before, and I think the machine is working fine based on my earlier findings. I will swap out the RAM for know good in my OSI 600, but I don't think that's the problem, so next up I need to have a good look at the video circuit.
IC's 11, 12,13 and 20 seem to be the main protagonists so I may just pop them in the TL866 to see if they are all good.
EDIT: All the IC's test fine...
Whilst it's a step forward, something is still wrong. After a bit of adjustment I get a nice clear white background
But no K cursor. Video signal is nice and I have a good back porch. Yellow is the output from the ZX8-CCB, blue is the input from the ZX80 into the Z8-CCB
It's more of a signal than I've had before, and I think the machine is working fine based on my earlier findings. I will swap out the RAM for know good in my OSI 600, but I don't think that's the problem, so next up I need to have a good look at the video circuit.
IC's 11, 12,13 and 20 seem to be the main protagonists so I may just pop them in the TL866 to see if they are all good.
EDIT: All the IC's test fine...
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Time to go back in time again - ZX80 replica build
Oh bugger !
This issue seems to be really tough...
Hope you will find soon what's going on there.
This issue seems to be really tough...
Hope you will find soon what's going on there.
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