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ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers
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rubber_jonnie
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Got mine downloaded this morning.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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PhilC
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Please let me know if it's worth the upgrade
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Yes, it's €10
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ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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I tested HDDRIVER 11 with XFRRATE yesterday afternoon om my Mega 4.
Set up was as follows:
Mega ST 4
16GB CF card pre configured with HDDRIVER 10.18, then upgraded to V11.
Beta ST-IDE-ROM board configured to use TOS 2.06.
I ran tests with Blitter support off, and then enabled it. The results were odd.
Blitter off:
Blitter on:
As you can see with the Blitter on it looks weird, much slower than with it off.
It has occurred to me that I should double check to ensure the Blitter was enabled in TOS, which I'll do later (I'm pretty sure it was), but those results do look a bit strange.
From a user perspective it was difficult to feel a difference.
I'll update a bit later.
Set up was as follows:
Mega ST 4
16GB CF card pre configured with HDDRIVER 10.18, then upgraded to V11.
Beta ST-IDE-ROM board configured to use TOS 2.06.
I ran tests with Blitter support off, and then enabled it. The results were odd.
Blitter off:
Blitter on:
As you can see with the Blitter on it looks weird, much slower than with it off.
It has occurred to me that I should double check to ensure the Blitter was enabled in TOS, which I'll do later (I'm pretty sure it was), but those results do look a bit strange.
From a user perspective it was difficult to feel a difference.
I'll update a bit later.
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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PhilC
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers
Thanks @rubber_jonnie , I guess I'll wait for now before upgrading, especially considering I only got 10 last year.
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czietz
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For comparison. This is on my machine, with Lightning ST.
HDDRIVER 10: HDDRIVER 11 + Blitter enabled: Be aware that this is with a crappy SD-IDE-adapter that does not support "R/W multiple" ("Accelerated Mode" in HDDRIVER); otherwise the speed increase from version 10 to 11 would be bigger, as I've seen during my beta tests.
HDDRIVER 10: HDDRIVER 11 + Blitter enabled: Be aware that this is with a crappy SD-IDE-adapter that does not support "R/W multiple" ("Accelerated Mode" in HDDRIVER); otherwise the speed increase from version 10 to 11 would be bigger, as I've seen during my beta tests.
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@PhilC I just went back and cross checked my results to make sure Blitter was enabled in TOS and I get exactly the same results. I'll probably have another look later today, and may drop Uwe a note, because it could be that XFRRATE is getting a weird read because of the Blitter. It certainly doesn't seem to be that much slower, at the very least the same speed.PhilC wrote: 01 Mar 2020 08:51 Thanks @rubber_jonnie , I guess I'll wait for now before upgrading, especially considering I only got 10 last year.
@exxos do you know of any transfer rate testing tools aside from XFRRATE?
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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I don't know of any others. Though I half think its a limitation of the IDE design. It was never intended to be used in any way other than a basic IDE test board.its by no means a final polished product. I think it will behave fine on the V1.1 which icky is going to build up and test soon.rubber_jonnie wrote: 01 Mar 2020 09:35 @exxos do you know of any transfer rate testing tools aside from XFRRATE?
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rubber_jonnie
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@exxos Yeah, I think perhaps the results from testing one single IDE interface aren't sufficiently diverse to make any kind of call. Hopefully I can get my hands on a V1.1 board and retry, see what the results are.exxos wrote: 01 Mar 2020 11:41I don't know of any others. Though I half think its a limitation of the IDE design. It was never intended to be used in any way other than a basic IDE test board.its by no means a final polished product. I think it will behave fine on the V1.1 which icky is going to build up and test soon.rubber_jonnie wrote: 01 Mar 2020 09:35 @exxos do you know of any transfer rate testing tools aside from XFRRATE?
Honestly, I don't believe the XFFRATE results, because performance is certainly not noticeably worse with the Blitter options enabled.
I should also try it with a genuine hard drive to see if it make any difference over the CF device.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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