ST536 STE EDITION
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PhilC
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
Might be worth re-looking at Maprom to see how it changed the rom pointers and then copy that?
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
It uses the MMU to to the address translation. So the CPU sees 206 space but the MMU redirects it to TTram. Such a huge MMU table is why you loose a bit of speed because of the extra overhead.PhilC wrote: 13 May 2025 17:43 Might be worth re-looking at Maprom to see how it changed the rom pointers and then copy that?
What I'm doing is similar. The CPU still thinks it's accessing 206 space. BUT I fiddle the address so it goes to TTram. The SDRAM controller is nonthewiser as it only sees TTram access like normal. It's very simple idea... It should work :( but I'm not much good at verilog. So I've probably screwed up some stuff. But I don't see what. :(
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I found a Verilog AI. It states my address translation is likely delaying the address which the RAM controller is seeing and basically screws up all the timing :roll: I mean I suppose it is possible...... but that would mean my idea would simply never work :roll:
I tried not using AS30 to see if I could gain a few extra ns that way. but no change :( But it likely upsets the BURST timings as well. I disabled BURST for ROM but still no joy.
So assuming that's the issue, SRAM is the only way it would really work.. Thats fine I guess, its only like £3 a chip anyway. Just a PITA to respin the board again. Might have to be a "next year project" as its all soaking to much of my time up currently.
I tried not using AS30 to see if I could gain a few extra ns that way. but no change :( But it likely upsets the BURST timings as well. I disabled BURST for ROM but still no joy.
So assuming that's the issue, SRAM is the only way it would really work.. Thats fine I guess, its only like £3 a chip anyway. Just a PITA to respin the board again. Might have to be a "next year project" as its all soaking to much of my time up currently.
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
Hey @exxos I seem to have continuity between these two pins (Sorry I'm not sure the pin numbers) Can you easily see if they're supposed to be connected? I think they go to that via?
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If my uploaded image is garbage, please see the Google drive upload instead.
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If they are GND.....Steve wrote: 13 May 2025 19:39 If my uploaded image is garbage, please see the Google drive upload instead.
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Yeah your image just shows as vertical lines...
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Yeah I think they're GND... I just buzzed them to the GND header, it's just so hard to see, I need a microscope! But yeah I think they are.
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You don't have any sort of magnifying thingy ? I wouldn't even consider soldering one of those chips without one these days.Steve wrote: 13 May 2025 19:49 Yeah I think they're GND... I just buzzed them to the GND header, it's just so hard to see, I need a microscope! But yeah I think they are.
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
I've got an old-fashioned one-eye-piece magnifier I use, but it's no good when I'm trying to hold two multimeter probes lol :) I've checked it all out and my soldering looks good. I'll program it tomorrow because I had to ultrasonic it again tonight, want it to thoroughly dry out. I also noticed there seems to be some flux residue on my 030 CPU pins, so I'm soaking them in alcohol over night to make sure they're nice and clean.exxos wrote: 13 May 2025 19:53You don't have any sort of magnifying thingy ? I wouldn't even consider soldering one of those chips without one these days.Steve wrote: 13 May 2025 19:49 Yeah I think they're GND... I just buzzed them to the GND header, it's just so hard to see, I need a microscope! But yeah I think they are.
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Re: ST536 STE EDITION
@Steve take some high Res pics with your phone and zoom in to check them if you have no microscope. BTW I only use a cheap USB one and that's been good for everything I've done so far.
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