A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
So this is interesting:
What am I looking at you ask? I set up a small Telnet server on the A5000 and successfully connected to it from my Mac. Yep TCP is working, you can see the 3 way handshake at the top of the image, and you can see I am connected to the Telnet server via TCP and logged in, from where I can run commands.
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What am I looking at you ask? I set up a small Telnet server on the A5000 and successfully connected to it from my Mac. Yep TCP is working, you can see the 3 way handshake at the top of the image, and you can see I am connected to the Telnet server via TCP and logged in, from where I can run commands.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Something just occurred to me.
When I connect via my Mac and Telnet, I am connecting from a high port to port 23 on the A5000. Normal TCP/IP behaviour.
When I connect from the A5000 to a Windows share, it's connecting to 139, which is correct. However the source port is unusually low, 1025. I suspect that when the SYN/ACK is coming back, the A5000 sees the low port and doesn't like it. The only thing that makes me question this, is that there isn't an immediate reset, but the source port just looks wrong to me.
This make a lot of sense, but what is weird is that it would use such a low port to begin with.
When I connect via my Mac and Telnet, I am connecting from a high port to port 23 on the A5000. Normal TCP/IP behaviour.
When I connect from the A5000 to a Windows share, it's connecting to 139, which is correct. However the source port is unusually low, 1025. I suspect that when the SYN/ACK is coming back, the A5000 sees the low port and doesn't like it. The only thing that makes me question this, is that there isn't an immediate reset, but the source port just looks wrong to me.
This make a lot of sense, but what is weird is that it would use such a low port to begin with.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Just chatted with a friend who is rather more experienced than me in TCP/IP and he said that port 1025 is ok for a smaller stack, but I should look at TCP options, so I guess I will :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Lordy!!!
The RISCOS CLI does have some familiar commands, but then on the other hand it has some 'weirdness'...
For example, *dir will take you to the root of a drive, but *dir SCSI::SCSI_5.$.Archive will take you to the specified directory in the SCSI filesystem. Yes, you can specify the filing system too.
So don't type *dir when you've just navigated to a directory, because you'll be back where you started.
Instead of *dir for a directory listing, you use *cat (No surprises there really) or *ex for an expanded listing.
As a DOS and Linux user, this has slightly 'done my head in'.
:dizzy:
CLI reference for this can be found here: RISCO CLI Reference.
The RISCOS CLI does have some familiar commands, but then on the other hand it has some 'weirdness'...
For example, *dir will take you to the root of a drive, but *dir SCSI::SCSI_5.$.Archive will take you to the specified directory in the SCSI filesystem. Yes, you can specify the filing system too.
So don't type *dir when you've just navigated to a directory, because you'll be back where you started.
Instead of *dir for a directory listing, you use *cat (No surprises there really) or *ex for an expanded listing.
As a DOS and Linux user, this has slightly 'done my head in'.
:dizzy:
CLI reference for this can be found here: RISCO CLI Reference.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Yeah, RISC OS can be weird for someone used to Unix or DOS...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
I've learned a lot about it in the last few days, that's for sure.HigashiJun wrote: 28 Nov 2023 11:21 Yeah, RISC OS can be weird for someone used to Unix or DOS...
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Every trial has its advantages...rubber_jonnie wrote: 28 Nov 2023 11:55 I've learned a lot about it in the last few days, that's for sure.
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
So, my network TAP has arrived, hopefully I'll get that sorted over the weekend and we can see if the packets actually get to the A5000 when trying to connect to a CIFs share.
Since telnet to the A5000 works from my Mac, that is suggestive that TCP actually works as advertised, so I suspect it is the response from the hosting server/laptop that the A5000 doesn't like.
The mystery continues :)
Since telnet to the A5000 works from my Mac, that is suggestive that TCP actually works as advertised, so I suspect it is the response from the hosting server/laptop that the A5000 doesn't like.
The mystery continues :)
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Hope for you it will be soon over...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Me too.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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