A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Ok, so since removing the Laser Direct board the PSU appears stable, or at least has been so far, so it's staying out.
The good news is that I have BlueSCSI working, it seems I had managed to download an early version of the firmware, so I went back, got the latest and now I have this:
The drives have formatted OK, and files copy there OK too, so it looks like writing is fine.
I created the drive using the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=HD00512.hda bs=512 count=1000000
I did this on my Mac and it seems to work just fine. I just need to remind myself how to get the OS installed onto the SCSI drive so I can boot from there!!!
@stephen_usher this may be of use to you, hope so.
The good news is that I have BlueSCSI working, it seems I had managed to download an early version of the firmware, so I went back, got the latest and now I have this:
The drives have formatted OK, and files copy there OK too, so it looks like writing is fine.
I created the drive using the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=HD00512.hda bs=512 count=1000000
I did this on my Mac and it seems to work just fine. I just need to remind myself how to get the OS installed onto the SCSI drive so I can boot from there!!!
@stephen_usher this may be of use to you, hope so.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Thanks! Unfortunately no SCSI on the A4000 and only connection for a mini-podule. The A4000 is really cost reduced in terms of expandability, i.e. virtually none.
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Aahh, shame. The A5000 only has IDE by default, it's a Morley non cached one, but it's a long podule, so I'm assuming from what you're saying, they won't fit fit the A4000.stephen_usher wrote: 26 Jun 2023 16:03 Thanks! Unfortunately no SCSI on the A4000 and only connection for a mini-podule. The A4000 is really cost reduced in terms of expandability, i.e. virtually none.
I'm humming and haring about what to do next, as though the BlueSCSI drive formats fine and can be written to, it seems the backups of the original drive cannot simply be just dumped on the new drive.
Also, since removing the Laser Direct card, and removing a Molex extender cable to the HDD, the PSU and original HDD seem to work fine. So do I move forward with the BlueSCSI (I have 2 now :) ) which will give me a 500MB HDD, or do I leave it as is with the physical drive and call it good.
Since the BlueSCSI seems to work fine, I kind of want to go down that route, but I'll need to refresh my memory about how I got the OS booting from disk last time as I'm struggling to remember.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Yeah, the A4000 only has effectively headers on the motherboard and is one of two systems, both based upon the ARM250 SoC, which use this and don't have a full podule slot. As I said, cost reduced and knackered by default.
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Well that's just rubbish!!stephen_usher wrote: 26 Jun 2023 18:17 Yeah, the A4000 only has effectively headers on the motherboard and is one of two systems, both based upon the ARM250 SoC, which use this and don't have a full podule slot. As I said, cost reduced and knackered by default.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Ok, so I've decided to bite the bullet and replace the PSU.
Given the leaking caps it had when I got it, and the very porous PCB, I'm wondering if despite a damn good clean it has electrolyte in the PCB and it's affecting performance.
What is happening is that when stood for a day or so, it takes time to get up to speed, like the Mac Classic and gives screen flickering and odd burbling noises from the speaker, and the HDD won't spin up for about 5 minutes. After that it'll run fine all day.
So, I've found a Meanwell RPT-60A which provides the 12v, 5v and -5v needed and we'll see how that goes, and in the meantime I need to try and get the BlueSCSI booting, so I'll need to follow the instructions over on Riscos.com, since I really can't remember what I did last time!!
I wish I'd written down more detailed instructions when I did it previously...
Given the leaking caps it had when I got it, and the very porous PCB, I'm wondering if despite a damn good clean it has electrolyte in the PCB and it's affecting performance.
What is happening is that when stood for a day or so, it takes time to get up to speed, like the Mac Classic and gives screen flickering and odd burbling noises from the speaker, and the HDD won't spin up for about 5 minutes. After that it'll run fine all day.
So, I've found a Meanwell RPT-60A which provides the 12v, 5v and -5v needed and we'll see how that goes, and in the meantime I need to try and get the BlueSCSI booting, so I'll need to follow the instructions over on Riscos.com, since I really can't remember what I did last time!!
I wish I'd written down more detailed instructions when I did it previously...
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
I can think of somewhere useful for you to store them for your future reference...it even has a group of like-minded retro enthusiasts who might also appreciate the write-up!rubber_jonnie wrote: 28 Jun 2023 11:53 I wish I'd written down more detailed instructions when I did it previously...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Well I'd actually meant I wish I'd stored them here...JezC wrote: 28 Jun 2023 15:05I can think of somewhere useful for you to store them for your future reference...it even has a group of like-minded retro enthusiasts who might also appreciate the write-up!rubber_jonnie wrote: 28 Jun 2023 11:53 I wish I'd written down more detailed instructions when I did it previously...
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First I need to go figure out what I did
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Hopefully Icky and Exxos will have that AtariWiki up at some point....perhaps there will be a 'misc/other machines' section that RJ can fill up? :D
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Perhaps :)mrbombermillzy wrote: 28 Jun 2023 19:22 Hopefully Icky and Exxos will have that AtariWiki up at some point....perhaps there will be a 'misc/other machines' section that RJ can fill up? :D
Part of the problem seems to be that any drive I put on BlueSCSI is unbootable.
Be it 80MB like my physical IBM drive, or 500MB, the maximum, adding !Boot from Uniboot makes no difference and it simply doesn't boot. They are recognised as drives, format, they can be read and written to, but they don't boot, and I see no option for it in the Morley controller config options, and I'm fairly sure all I did last time was format and drop in Uniboot.
Could it be a BlueSCSI thing? Maybe. I may try installing the BlueSCSI in my Mac Classic and see if I can install a bootable OS, got to be worth a try and wouldn't take long.
If I had another physical 50 pin SCSI drive I could drop in, that would help, but I have no more spares :(
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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