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Woo hoo - Collection Completed!! TRS-80 inbound

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Re: Woo hoo - Collection Completed!! TRS-80 inbound

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Where did you order your components from?

I've noticed that RS have shifted from using Royal Mail to DPD recently.
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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stephen_usher wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:00 pm Where did you order your components from?

I've noticed that RS have shifted from using Royal Mail to DPD recently.
TBH I just got them from eBay, one of my regular sellers. I find the shipping charges for the likes of RS etc to be ridiculous for small items like ICs.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Aaaand the parts arrived this morning :) The replacement IC total so far is 8 74LS ICs, 8 RAM ICs and 2 VRM ICs...

It's all running again nicely now, MEM SIZE? shows up at boot as expected:

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And hitting enter gives me BASIC:

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And as an added bonus, due to the Post Office hoarding our mail over the last few days, these also arrived:

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A bit late for #SEPTANDY, but still pleased, especially as I owned the TRS-80 Level 1 basic manual when I was younger, so a bit of a nostalgia blast.

The next step is to figure out what the next stage for the 64K upgrade is and if I can complete it easily. Also if I can complete it before any more logic ICs die...
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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:yay2: :dualthumbup: :cheer: :girldance:
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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Very nice repair and clean video.

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Tomswork wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:37 pm Very nice repair and clean video.

Tom
Yes, the video is quite nice, I'm just wondering what could go wrong next :dizzy:
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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You never know with these old machines i have a few spare power transistors. For the model and coco machines they seam to be like popcorn

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Tomswork wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:56 pm You never know with these old machines i have a few spare power transistors. For the model and coco machines they seam to be like popcorn

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Yep, you can't beat having a few spares :)
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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So, I've circled back to the 64KB upgrade by Errol Rosser (Remove the .txt from the attached file to get to the PDF) and think I have it figured out - literally.

His 'figure 3' on the 2nd page refers to Z73, where some tracks need cutting and a bodge wire adding. He shows it as a 16 pin IC, but in reality the IC is a 74LS32 - a 14 pin package.

So, some close comparisons made with a photo of the underside of the board, and all you need to do is remove two of the pins in figure 3 and it's correct.

It has been bugging me massively, because I was wondering if he meant Z72 instead which is 16 pin, but no, it's a mistake.

So I think I have the details to carry on, but half expecting it to break again halfway through the process!!
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Before I crack on with the 64K upgrade, I thought I ought to just run a small 'burn in' to see if all goes well and she behaves before I start mucking around again.

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It's a simple BASIC program that runs a loop of 10000 iterations, generates a random X value between 0 and 127 and a random Y value between 0 and 47, these values representing the 'pixels' you can plot on screen, and turns the pixels on.

Once it's finished the first loop, it does the same again but turns the pixels that have been plotted off, once again using random X & Y coordinates. Essentially it just makes a mess of pixels (Very large ones) on screen and runs until the end of time.

It should give the video RAM a good workout at least and if it all seems to run fine during the day, then I will be cracking on with the upgrade to 64K, hopefully this weekend.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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