Uh Oh.Electron inbound

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There was a different ULA recreation designed which, I think, uses more easily obtained parts.
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:14 pm
PhilC wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:47 pm I think you need a keyboard connected for an Electron to boot, so connect that if you’ve not already
Lol, yes I remembered, see my post after yours :)
Well remembered then :lol:
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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:20 pm There was a different ULA recreation designed which, I think, uses more easily obtained parts.
Yep, pretty sure it's on Stardot, so I should go and take a look.
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And karate ended up being off tonight, so I re-did the keyboard ribbon on the beat up Electron:

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And I still have some non working keys....

A quick test with the multimeter and no continuity on a keypress, but despite many presses, still no joy. I removed the offending switches, and like the Beeb, the contacts screw out, so I pulled one from each and squirted in some Electrolube contact cleaner.

Contact screwed back in and many presses later and all but 2 are working every press, and those 2 are working intermittently now at least, so I'll leave them to soak overnight.

Next up is a thorough wash of the case and keycaps, and then I'll make a call on retrobriting, just for kicks :)
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Halfway through cleaning the very yellow keys!

All work at last and soon they'll all be clean 😁

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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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So, I reassembled this morning and the damn Ctrl key wasn't working. Happily the BBC and Electron key switches are extremely good and once removed the pins unscrew easily and you can clean the contacts and inject contact cleaner.

All reassembled and working now, seen here with its less yellow sibling:

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Also wondering if this operator is still about:

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Interesting they also mention the moulding number.
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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I decided to do one final job on both Electrons, and that is to mod them for colour composite out.

Like the BBCs before them, they have monochrome composite by default from the factory. Not sure why this is the case, but having modded my BBCs before, and simple mod at that, adding a capacitor in, I figured that the Electron may have a similarly easy mod to do the same.

Turns out it was even easier than the BBC, just requiring Link 4 to be jumpered.

A quick job with the soldering iron and it was done:

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So I plugged in and away we go:

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It should be noted that on my other Electron (The non-yellow one), link 4 is in a different location, so if you're doing this mod then you may need to play hunt the link first.

Mine were on the bottom left and middle left, but the silkscreen was very well marked as LK4.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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New ULA replacement available... https://github.com/moogway82/JamSoftElectronULA
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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stephen_usher wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:40 am New ULA replacement available... https://github.com/moogway82/JamSoftElectronULA
Oooh interesting, thanks!
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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stephen_usher wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:40 am New ULA replacement available... https://github.com/moogway82/JamSoftElectronULA
This made me go and look for the original ULA project IC, 10M08SCE144C8G, again and I found one on AliExpress for less than £20 shipped, so have ordered one.

Will it be fake? Don't know but it's worth a shot.

Just in case it is I've requested a partially built one of the new ones over at Stardot.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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