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68060 sources

News & updates for the upcoming 68060 accelerator

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Re: 68060 sources

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alenppc wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:37 pm Stephen ….
Just realized I misspelled his name …. may as well call him Stefano (Mamma Mia!!!) …. apologies.


Btw on the 1260 does the softieee + MuRedox maintain the “sysinfo” ratio aka a tad better than an 882@25mhz or real life usage is worse? (not that anyone in 2024 should 3d render or image filter on 30y old hw, pure curiosity on how imprecise sysinfo really is).


Oh, oh before I forget thanks for the link on your tf support site to the tf360 8GB cf …. simple and streamlined + tiny loader (yayyy) … just had to update softieee to latest to get MuRedox up and running (winuae made this very easy).
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phoenixdownita wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:54 pm Btw on the 1260 does the softieee + MuRedox maintain the “sysinfo” ratio aka a tad better than an 882@25mhz or real life usage is worse? (not that anyone in 2024 should 3d render or image filter on 30y old hw, pure curiosity on how imprecise sysinfo really is).
Yes, with 68882/25 on the TF1232 I get 0.80 Mflops, so the sysinfo test on the LC060/100 is actually faster.
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alenppc wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:47 pm
phoenixdownita wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:54 pm Btw on the 1260 does the softieee + MuRedox maintain the “sysinfo” ratio aka a tad better than an 882@25mhz or real life usage is worse? (not that anyone in 2024 should 3d render or image filter on 30y old hw, pure curiosity on how imprecise sysinfo really is).
Yes, with 68882/25 on the TF1232 I get 0.80 Mflops, so the sysinfo test on the LC060/100 is actually faster.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear … I meant to ask if outside the synthetic sysinfo score real life usage also matches with what an 882@25 would provide. I admit in 2024 “real life usage” of any Amiga is an oxymoron, not sure there are some std fpu app tests one could run outside sysinfo/aibb, I wouldn’t be surprised if the sysinfo score is too optimistic in this case I mean ThoR kept repeating that sw impl is slow.
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phoenixdownita wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:58 pm
Sorry if I wasn’t clear … I meant to ask if outside the synthetic sysinfo score real life usage also matches with what an 882@25 would provide. I admit in 2024 “real life usage” of any Amiga is an oxymoron, not sure there are some std fpu app tests one could run outside sysinfo/aibb, I wouldn’t be surprised if the sysinfo score is too optimistic in this case I mean ThoR kept repeating that sw impl is slow.
Oh I see. If someone has time to dedicate to this, they could build a test case, but unfortunately I am not the right person for this job. :)
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Re: 68060 sources

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alenppc wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:25 pm
phoenixdownita wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:58 pm
Sorry if I wasn’t clear … I meant to ask if outside the synthetic sysinfo score real life usage also matches with what an 882@25 would provide. I admit in 2024 “real life usage” of any Amiga is an oxymoron, not sure there are some std fpu app tests one could run outside sysinfo/aibb, I wouldn’t be surprised if the sysinfo score is too optimistic in this case I mean ThoR kept repeating that sw impl is slow.
Oh I see. If someone has time to dedicate to this, they could build a test case, but unfortunately I am not the right person for this job. :)
I think I saw a YT video where a specific 3d scene was rendered in a 3d program (not sure which) and a filter applied to a given image on another image editing program, as tests.
I can't remember the details of either the YT author or the programs he used ... bummer.

I do not have any 881/882 enabled accelerator to even compare .... at any rate looking at how the 881/882 connects to the o30 bus it seems the decode logic for the CS is quite simple (there's a Motorola note with the PAL/GAL equations alas it's not clear to me if it would work at 50MHz) so technically it should be possible to build a "daughterboard" for the tf330 to "displace" the o30 and add the 882 (881@50MHz are not a thing) and required CS decoding logic (not sure I would also support its own oscillator or just force match the CPU speed) ... then again an 882@50Mhz is not cheap, it seems the 882@40MHz FN versions that can be had for 7US$ or less but not sure they do overclock ... maybe there's a small market for such duaghterboards??? Dunno.
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