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RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
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Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
@Smonson @exxos
The H4 did pass the diag cart timing checks, so you'd think that would be out as a suspect.
I'll try moving my finger round the pins, and I'll check the clock inputs on the Shifter, but I'd have thought that if they were wrong I'd have problems with the standard Shifter display, which I don't.
The board was working fine on another machine too, but I haven't rechecked it yet, so I'll also do that.
Once I've had a chance to look at all this I'll report back. I'll have to see what I can fit in this week as I have to go and visit my elderly parents next week. I may not be quick at getting stuff done.
The H4 did pass the diag cart timing checks, so you'd think that would be out as a suspect.
I'll try moving my finger round the pins, and I'll check the clock inputs on the Shifter, but I'd have thought that if they were wrong I'd have problems with the standard Shifter display, which I don't.
The board was working fine on another machine too, but I haven't rechecked it yet, so I'll also do that.
Once I've had a chance to look at all this I'll report back. I'll have to see what I can fit in this week as I have to go and visit my elderly parents next week. I may not be quick at getting stuff done.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
The point where I most suspect breaks in the data lines would be on the HDMI mod board itself. There's a 16-bit level shifter in the path of the bus where I have occasionally had to reflow a dodgy pin. I'm fairly sure the timing is OK since it's only a couple of lines affected and they don't appear to be displaying intermittent/random data. Hopefully they might only need to be reflowed.
I'm sorry about the quality control, I've just fired the guy who built that board AND the guy who checked it.
I'm sorry about the quality control, I've just fired the guy who built that board AND the guy who checked it.
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Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
Maybe a bit hasty since I haven't checked yetSmonson wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:42 am
I'm sorry about the quality control, I've just fired the guy who built that board AND the guy who checked it.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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@Smonson @exxos
I tried moving my finger round the pins over lunchtime and nothing changed at all, still getting that stripey look.
I'll see what I can do about getting the adpater into another machine, see how it looks. It should fit either my test board (Who needs a working floppy to test video output anyway!) or my Mega4, which happens to have the lid off and a socketed shifter
I tried moving my finger round the pins over lunchtime and nothing changed at all, still getting that stripey look.
I'll see what I can do about getting the adpater into another machine, see how it looks. It should fit either my test board (Who needs a working floppy to test video output anyway!) or my Mega4, which happens to have the lid off and a socketed shifter
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
Are you after @PhilC 's job @rubber_jonnie ? 
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Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
@exxos @PhilC Well, maybe a job share?
Seriously, if I could have a job that paid as well as my current job and let me just do retro computer stuff, I'd be on it like a flash
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone on the forum would take that if offered...rubber_jonnie wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:02 pm Seriously, if I could have a job that paid as well as my current job and let me just do retro computer stuff, I'd be on it like a flash![]()
Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
Aside from me, I'm happy to take early retirementJezC wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:15 pmI'm pretty sure that almost everyone on the forum would take that if offered...rubber_jonnie wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:02 pm Seriously, if I could have a job that paid as well as my current job and let me just do retro computer stuff, I'd be on it like a flash![]()
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@JezC For sure!JezC wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:15 pm
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone on the forum would take that if offered...![]()
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Re: RJ's Attempt. Maybe he's going to finish this time!
It's the breaking that I like. Followed by the fixing of course
If it ain't broke, test it to Destruction.
