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A Grand Day Out
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
That's the one you suggested and I bought when I thought there was an NSTC issue with my OSI 600.
So are you saying you use an S-Video cable from the normal display port of the C128 via that adapter to VGA or that you use an S-Video cable from the RGBI interface via that adapter?
I'm currently using a standard C64 style composite cable from the C128 to my Retrotink 2x Mini, but it will accept S-Video too.
So many adapters in my life...
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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PhilC
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Re: A Grand Day Out
@rubber_jonnie I use the S-Video cable that's on a special PCB that replaces the modulator but the S-Video cable you bought for your C64 should also do the job nicely and IMO looks so much better.
The RGBI uses a whole different interface for the 80 column mode.
The RGBI uses a whole different interface for the 80 column mode.
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
You know what, I'd totally forgotten my C64 S-Video cable!! It's already plugged into my Retrotink too.PhilC wrote: 18 Mar 2024 11:28 @rubber_jonnie I use the S-Video cable that's on a special PCB that replaces the modulator but the S-Video cable you bought for your C64 should also do the job nicely and IMO looks so much better.
The RGBI uses a whole different interface for the 80 column mode.
The video quality is considerably better, still a bit ghosty and with a few bars, but it is sharper. More pot twiddling awaits.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
@PhilC
Just found this on eBay:
For £20 I thought it was worth a punt as it looks like it is RBGI to SCART, and whilst not ideal, will at least allow me to test and see how things look.
Also i did a composite/S-Video comparison, first image is composite:
2nd is S-Video:
Both via my Retrotink 2x Mini to HDMI.
For me the 2nd is definitely much better so I think I'll stick with the S-Video. I'm a dumbass though for forgetting I had a dual purpose C64/128 composite/S-Video cable...
Just found this on eBay:
For £20 I thought it was worth a punt as it looks like it is RBGI to SCART, and whilst not ideal, will at least allow me to test and see how things look.
Also i did a composite/S-Video comparison, first image is composite:
2nd is S-Video:
Both via my Retrotink 2x Mini to HDMI.
For me the 2nd is definitely much better so I think I'll stick with the S-Video. I'm a dumbass though for forgetting I had a dual purpose C64/128 composite/S-Video cable...
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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PhilC
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Re: A Grand Day Out
@rubber_jonnie yes that cable is definitely worth a punt. I got my adaptor imported from the US and it works great but it's not cheap obviously.
I'll try and get a comparison of my screen later on if I get a mo.
I'll try and get a comparison of my screen later on if I get a mo.
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
Thanks.PhilC wrote: 18 Mar 2024 13:21 @rubber_jonnie yes that cable is definitely worth a punt. I got my adaptor imported from the US and it works great but it's not cheap obviously.
I'll try and get a comparison of my screen later on if I get a mo.
Will see what the horrible CP/M screen looks like :)
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
And CP/M looks like this:
So despite what I said earlier, there are definite improvements here so long as I use S-Video.
So despite what I said earlier, there are definite improvements here so long as I use S-Video.
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A Grand Day Out
Both the composite and the s-video leads you have there seem to be ringing, giving you ghosting. You may need a ferrite core on them or get better cables.
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Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A Grand Day Out
Worth a try. Both my standard composite cables do the same, one does double duty as S-Video, and both shots were taken on the double cable.stephen_usher wrote: 18 Mar 2024 15:24 Both the composite and the s-video leads you have there seem to be ringing, giving you ghosting. You may need a ferrite core on them or get better cables.
Not sure if I have any ferrite cores lying around, I'll have a look but worth a shot.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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