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Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!

Any 680x0 based information, repairs, images, upgrades and other cool stuff that is not Atari and Amiga based but based on the Motorola 68K range of processors
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@rubber_jonnie

That is a good sign happy macintosh

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Tomswork wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:34 pm @rubber_jonnie

That is a good sign happy macintosh

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There's more:

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Still some work to do, but it's a start. This is the mobo you sent me, so thank you very much 😁
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Excellent work they are fun machine's and its good to see it work

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And in no small part due to you Tom, thanks so much for your help and the mainboard, I'm very grateful.

Seems have been down to bad connections in the main plug and the power plug for the HDD, which was making and breaking and causing the PSU to hiccup. Gave them all a clean and a tweak.

Memory module installed and working too now:

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I need to fit a replacement battery so need to find a cr2032 holder, sure I have one somewhere.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Yay! Time to diagnose the original board? ;-)

By the way, to boot off the internal ROM it's Cmd-Option-X-O or set it in the "Startup Disk"
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Well done sir. :dualthumbup:

However...
rubber_jonnie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:34 pm Seems have been down to bad connections in the main plug and the power plug
Doesn't this seem to be a bit of a pattern here??
rubber_jonnie wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:09 pm Well, I had a look at the Speccy today, all set for a fair session of troubleshooting.

As it turned out, the diagnosis took less than 30 minutes, it was a broken power lead just inside the strain relief of the PSU.
:shock:

Tip: Next machine you do, check the power leads first. :lol:
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mrbombermillzy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:44 pm
Tip: Next machine you do, check the power leads first. :lol:
To be fair, the Spectrum was just a failed pair of wires, not the connector.

Not quite the same, the Mac has a 14 pin plug internally and I had already reflowed the connections for that and all other stuff, like video and sync to the neck board too. Plus the logic board was actually, and still is, dead.

The HDD power was odd, it kept pulsing and bringing the PSU down, but as soon as I sorted the Molex plug, it started behaving.

It seems that bad connections were rife in it though, as it took me another 30 minutes to clean the memory board and SIMM connections before I got anything other than a sad Mac.

Need to give the FDD a service I think, and add a non exploding battery type!
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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stephen_usher wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:41 pm Yay! Time to diagnose the original board? ;-)

By the way, to boot off the internal ROM it's Cmd-Option-X-O or set it in the "Startup Disk"
Cheers, will try that tomorrow :thumbup:
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Mac Classic - will it ever run again!!

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The floppy drive gears ⚙ for ejecting can be a pain

They turn to goo

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Tomswork wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:11 pm The floppy drive gears ⚙ for ejecting can be a pain

They turn to goo

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Yeah, I've seen a lot of that on Adrian's Digital Basement.

Annoyingly this morning I powered it on and got a checkerboard pattern, so it seems I'm not done with it yet, or it's not done with me!
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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