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I'm free two nights next week. I'll take a handful of links and post which ones I'm doing and then post back.

Is the Wiki editable?
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alexh wrote: 23 Nov 2023 11:46 I'm free two nights next week. I'll take a handful of links and post which ones I'm doing and then post back.

Is the Wiki editable?
Yeah I'm doing edits to it now here and there already. But mostly just making sure it seems functional currently. I will set you up with a admin account soon.. Will try and do it before the weekend.
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exxos wrote: 23 Nov 2023 09:43I think either way, it has invalid characters
It doesn't have invalid characters, just different encoding than default (which is UTF-8 I presume).

You have to either:

- convert it locally from Atari ST encoding (using e.g. iconv) and reupload
- set it the right encoding (if wiki allows such a thing)
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mikro wrote: 23 Nov 2023 18:06 It doesn't have invalid characters, just different encoding than default (which is UTF-8 I presume).
I've no idea whats going on or what format its in.

on temlib its different again, where it has comma in the word decimal for example.

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Then if I let chrome translate it, it looks correct.

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The raw text in the database looks as it does on temlib.

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But on the webpage...

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The database structure is from the original Atari wiki. So I can only assume its always been like that . No idea. But I am getting question marks not commas, but neither is really correct anyway.

I can copy the English translation and dump that into the wiki, but then its not french, but not sure we should have french stuff on a english wiki anyway.

If I copy the text into editpad , no matter what set I chose, its never correct anyway.

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You were not patient enough. :) Atari didn't use any standard encoding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST_character_set. As you can see, it's based on CP437 which is not very common but it's really close to CP850. Both are available in your list. My editor (Kate in Linux) supports only the latter so I could check only that.

Let's take the original: https://github.com/ggnkua/Atari_ST_Sour ... M/VT52.TXT

and show it in UTF-8 first:

utf8.png

looks like your wiki, doesn't it. Let's change encoding to CP850:

cp850.png

Voilà.
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Great detective work there @mikro !

I used 850 in my list , I did go though them last night but I think what is throwing me is the "ESCAPE A" line as it has a S then an apostrophe which did not want right. But I don't understand French anyway, so just assume it is correct. Google translate seems to like it anyway.

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LIST_3_7.TXT comes out corrupted after the conversion :shrug:

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The others seem OK so far...

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One link I have noticed which is broken is the dev-docs site. What I will do is just write a script to mass change the links in the database rather than hunting out a manually editing every page individually.

I have been pages such as magazines where none of those linked to the magazine section on my website so I have been slowly going through those and adding my links in as well.

Hopefully very soon I can give you guys some accounts to start doing edits. I think people should make an out of what size they are going to clone for inclusion with the wiki so we don't end up trying to fix pages which someone else is working on etc. Fixing all the links on the home pages of course where things should start.

I really want to try and get the wiki back up and running over Christmas time if possible. But of course if half the links on the wiki are dead then there is little point because people will just end up getting frustrated and not using it anyway.
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dev-docs doesn't allow directly linking to files anymore - everything has to be changed to link to the search-box instead.
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troed wrote: 26 Nov 2023 15:24 dev-docs doesn't allow directly linking to files anymore - everything has to be changed to link to the search-box instead.
Yep the links were just to the homepage on sourceforge from what I've seen so far.

It's a good reason again , why I prefer not linking to external sites , as to much changes to keep on top of it all.

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