I'm free two nights next week. I'll take a handful of links and post which ones I'm doing and then post back.
Is the Wiki editable?
Can all registered uses please login, even just for a few minutes..
It helps build a picture where our "good traffic" is coming from..
Thanks :)
It helps build a picture where our "good traffic" is coming from..
Thanks :)
Wiki dead links
Re: Wiki dead links
Senior Principal ASIC Engineer - SystemVerilog, VHDL
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A500+,A600,A4000/060,CD32,CDTV
Re: Wiki dead links
Yeah I'm doing edits to it now here and there already. But mostly just making sure it seems functional currently. I will set you up with a admin account soon.. Will try and do it before the weekend.alexh wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:46 am I'm free two nights next week. I'll take a handful of links and post which ones I'm doing and then post back.
Is the Wiki editable?
Re: Wiki dead links
It doesn't have invalid characters, just different encoding than default (which is UTF-8 I presume).
You have to either:
- convert it locally from Atari ST encoding (using e.g. iconv) and reupload
- set it the right encoding (if wiki allows such a thing)
Re: Wiki dead links
I've no idea whats going on or what format its in.mikro wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:06 pm It doesn't have invalid characters, just different encoding than default (which is UTF-8 I presume).
on temlib its different again, where it has comma in the word decimal for example.
Then if I let chrome translate it, it looks correct.
The raw text in the database looks as it does on temlib.
But on the webpage...
The database structure is from the original Atari wiki. So I can only assume its always been like that . No idea. But I am getting question marks not commas, but neither is really correct anyway.
I can copy the English translation and dump that into the wiki, but then its not french, but not sure we should have french stuff on a english wiki anyway.
If I copy the text into editpad , no matter what set I chose, its never correct anyway.
Re: Wiki dead links
You were not patient enough.
Atari didn't use any standard encoding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST_character_set. As you can see, it's based on CP437 which is not very common but it's really close to CP850. Both are available in your list. My editor (Kate in Linux) supports only the latter so I could check only that.
Let's take the original: https://github.com/ggnkua/Atari_ST_Sour ... M/VT52.TXT
and show it in UTF-8 first:
looks like your wiki, doesn't it. Let's change encoding to CP850:
Voilà.
Let's take the original: https://github.com/ggnkua/Atari_ST_Sour ... M/VT52.TXT
and show it in UTF-8 first:
looks like your wiki, doesn't it. Let's change encoding to CP850:
Voilà.
Re: Wiki dead links
Great detective work there @mikro !
I used 850 in my list , I did go though them last night but I think what is throwing me is the "ESCAPE A" line as it has a S then an apostrophe which did not want right. But I don't understand French anyway, so just assume it is correct. Google translate seems to like it anyway.
I used 850 in my list , I did go though them last night but I think what is throwing me is the "ESCAPE A" line as it has a S then an apostrophe which did not want right. But I don't understand French anyway, so just assume it is correct. Google translate seems to like it anyway.
Re: Wiki dead links
LIST_3_7.TXT comes out corrupted after the conversion 
The others seem OK so far...
The others seem OK so far...
Re: Wiki dead links
One link I have noticed which is broken is the dev-docs site. What I will do is just write a script to mass change the links in the database rather than hunting out a manually editing every page individually.
I have been pages such as magazines where none of those linked to the magazine section on my website so I have been slowly going through those and adding my links in as well.
Hopefully very soon I can give you guys some accounts to start doing edits. I think people should make an out of what size they are going to clone for inclusion with the wiki so we don't end up trying to fix pages which someone else is working on etc. Fixing all the links on the home pages of course where things should start.
I really want to try and get the wiki back up and running over Christmas time if possible. But of course if half the links on the wiki are dead then there is little point because people will just end up getting frustrated and not using it anyway.
I have been pages such as magazines where none of those linked to the magazine section on my website so I have been slowly going through those and adding my links in as well.
Hopefully very soon I can give you guys some accounts to start doing edits. I think people should make an out of what size they are going to clone for inclusion with the wiki so we don't end up trying to fix pages which someone else is working on etc. Fixing all the links on the home pages of course where things should start.
I really want to try and get the wiki back up and running over Christmas time if possible. But of course if half the links on the wiki are dead then there is little point because people will just end up getting frustrated and not using it anyway.
Re: Wiki dead links
dev-docs doesn't allow directly linking to files anymore - everything has to be changed to link to the search-box instead.
Re: Wiki dead links
Yep the links were just to the homepage on sourceforge from what I've seen so far.troed wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:24 pm dev-docs doesn't allow directly linking to files anymore - everything has to be changed to link to the search-box instead.
It's a good reason again , why I prefer not linking to external sites , as to much changes to keep on top of it all.

