Something experimental - A5000 mouse ball replacement.

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stephen_usher wrote: 15 Mar 2023 22:16 I guess you could try repeatedly dipping a steel ball in latex and then vulcanising it. I seem to remember that is how many of the original mouse balls were made.
I'll be honest, I have thought about doing that too, say with a 17mm or 18mm steel ball to allow for some depth in the latex coating.

I am also considering if it might be feasible to cast a 20mm resin ball with a 15mm ball bearing inside it.
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Ok, so I got round to attempting the mould making this weekend!!!

I stood the ball on a small piece of plastic to make the 'sprue' where I can pour in the epoxy once the mould is ready:

PXL_20230319_155300206.jpg

Mixed up the RTV moulding goo:

PXL_20230319_155304846.jpg

Then combined the two:

PXL_20230319_155442679.jpg

This is a first attempt and I do have enough for probably 3 moulding attempts.

I'm going to allow 24hrs for it to cure, I'm confident I got the mix ratio correct, it's 100-2 ratio by weight and I weighed it on some digital scales before mixing.

I'll report back on the results. And yes, I know there were bubbles, I've done some tapping around the periphery and most seem to have gone now.
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Progress!!

I gave the RTV about 60 hours to cure (Mostly because I forgot to check it :) ) and it's looking good now the original ball is removed:

PXL_20230321_113919256.jpg

Next up I need to try and pour some resin and see what's what :)
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Great work so far. I love to see this kind of thing.

Nervously awaiting the next instalment! :)

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Badwolf wrote: 22 Mar 2023 09:31 Great work so far. I love to see this kind of thing.

Nervously awaiting the next instalment! :)

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@Badwolf

You're in luck, I poured the resin just before 0900 this morning :)

PXL_20230323_093841957.jpg

It will be a gel in 6 hours and I should be able to de-mould in 12 hours, full hardness is in 24 hours. I'll probably just leave it until tomorrow morning which'll be this time tomorrow. How exciting!!
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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What did you do today, daddy? Well, I vicariously enjoyed a bloke on the internet making his ball harden over the course of a day.

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Badwolf wrote: 23 Mar 2023 10:25 What did you do today, daddy? Well, I vicariously enjoyed a bloke on the internet making his ball harden over the course of a day.

:shock:

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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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rubber_jonnie wrote: 23 Mar 2023 10:17 full hardness is in 24 hours.
Could be quite misleading out of its context...

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HigashiJun wrote: 23 Mar 2023 10:36
rubber_jonnie wrote: 23 Mar 2023 10:17 full hardness is in 24 hours.
Could be quite misleading out of its context...

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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...

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