520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
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exxos
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
The video DAC is as good as things can be. If you want a better solution, you would be better getting a STFM.
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HCRX27
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
Well, at the moment I'd rather need an information what to expect from transistors replacement as you mentioned in your article with certain improvement, not considering DAC VIDEO mode (maybe just not yet) ;)
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
Nice to see you here @ctrl.alt.rees, I'm a frequent viewer of your channel :)
FYI I can honestly say my STM has terrible jailbars on Low/Med res, and I have a modern PSU and the original RAM was replaced with a 4MB upgrade from @exxos, so fairly sure they aren't the culprits.
Interestingly, Hi res is just fine. This is testing via a VGA adapter BTW.
It does seem to be a fairly regular issue though, you're not alone.
FYI I can honestly say my STM has terrible jailbars on Low/Med res, and I have a modern PSU and the original RAM was replaced with a 4MB upgrade from @exxos, so fairly sure they aren't the culprits.
Interestingly, Hi res is just fine. This is testing via a VGA adapter BTW.
It does seem to be a fairly regular issue though, you're not alone.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Steve
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
FYI @rubber_jonnie I doubt Rees is watching this thread since he opened it five years ago and hasn't been active since. @HCRX27 necroed the thread back to life :)
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
Haha, show how much I'm paying attention...Steve wrote: 16 Sep 2025 12:58 FYI @rubber_jonnie I doubt Rees is watching this thread since he opened it five years ago and hasn't been active since. @HCRX27 necroed the thread back to life :)
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
Its also why I mentioned a while back that maybe we should install the extension to automatically lock threads after a year of inactivity to stop this sort of thing from happening..rubber_jonnie wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:15Haha, show how much I'm paying attention...Steve wrote: 16 Sep 2025 12:58 FYI @rubber_jonnie I doubt Rees is watching this thread since he opened it five years ago and hasn't been active since. @HCRX27 necroed the thread back to life :)
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
Sounds sensible to me.exxos wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:17Its also why I mentioned a while back that maybe we should install the extension to automatically lock threads after a year of inactivity to stop this sort of thing from happening..
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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HCRX27
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
What's wrong though with the thread, if this or similiar issue is a typical situation across different motherboards, yet there can be some differences? Is there a quota on the server? ;-)
Anyway, that's how it looks on my machine.
I'll compare it after transistor replacement is done and share the result, so at least there will be more documented knowledge into it :-)
Anyway, that's how it looks on my machine.
I'll compare it after transistor replacement is done and share the result, so at least there will be more documented knowledge into it :-)
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
You can't use external images I'm afraid, it's not permitted on the forum, you'll need to upload them and place inline in your post.HCRX27 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:25 What's wrong though with the thread, if this or similiar issue is a typical situation across different motherboards, yet there can be some differences? Is there a quota on the server? ;-)
Anyway, that's how it looks on my machine:
I'll compare it after transistor replacement is done and share the result, so at least there will be more documented knowledge into it :-)
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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HCRX27
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Re: 520ST With Bad "Jailbars" On Video Output
@rubber_jonnie
Indeed, thank you. I was looking for, but somehow missed attachment option earlier on. Edited :)
Indeed, thank you. I was looking for, but somehow missed attachment option earlier on. Edited :)
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