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ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
- frank.lukas
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Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
At the Diag Menu it display 4MB ST Ram when the card is working. There is no extra menu for the card. The ST Ram is 64bit organized and when the Diag cart display only 2MB ST Ram in total the whole Datalines are missing I think?
May be you can measure from a Dram Chip Mdata at the extra 2MB card to a correspondence/equivalent chip on the Mainboard. It should be 0 Ohm. See the schematics ...
... the second mcu of the extra 2MB ST Ram card is basically/practical parallel to the onboard mcu
May be you can measure from a Dram Chip Mdata at the extra 2MB card to a correspondence/equivalent chip on the Mainboard. It should be 0 Ohm. See the schematics ...
... the second mcu of the extra 2MB ST Ram card is basically/practical parallel to the onboard mcu
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
Sure - I saw "2 MByte STRAM" in the diag menu, so it was clear that the additional card wasn't detected.frank.lukas wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:46 pm At the Diag Menu it display 4MB ST Ram when the card is working. There is no extra menu for the card. The ST Ram is 64bit organized and when the Diag cart display only 2MB ST Ram in total the whole Datalines are missing I think?
May be you can measure from a Dram Chip Mdata at the extra 2MB card to a correspondence/equivalent chip on the Mainboard. It should be 0 Ohm. See the schematics ...
... the second mcu of the extra 2MB ST Ram card is basically/practical parallel to the onboard mcu
I checked all addresslines for continuity of both MCUs (U12 "RAM card" and U206 "onboard") and they are all connected -> connectors seem to have contact (at least for the addresslines).
I checked (so far) all D0-pins from all RAM chips (RAM card) for continuity to the solderside on the mainboard (corresponding connector to J1 on the RAM card) -> D0 of all RAM chips are connected to the mainboard.
My first Atari (from 1987):
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
Do you have any pictures of the RAM board. May help the forum members spot anything out of the norm.
- frank.lukas
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Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
You mean Mdata 0 to 63 ...wolfman wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:04 pm I checked (so far) all D0-pins from all RAM chips (RAM card) for continuity to the solderside on the mainboard (corresponding connector to J1 on the RAM card) -> D0 of all RAM chips are connected to the mainboard.
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
Icky wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:27 pm Do you have any pictures of the RAM board. May help the forum members spot anything out of the norm.
... I can't find anything out of the ordinary ...
My first Atari (from 1987):
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
Yes, but D0 only: D1-D3 is unchecked at this point.frank.lukas wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:05 pmYou mean Mdata 0 to 63 ...wolfman wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:04 pm I checked (so far) all D0-pins from all RAM chips (RAM card) for continuity to the solderside on the mainboard (corresponding connector to J1 on the RAM card) -> D0 of all RAM chips are connected to the mainboard.
My first Atari (from 1987):
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
All datalines (MDATA 0-63) checked for coninuity to the solderside of the mainboard -> all connected.
Measured from the pins of the chips down to the solderjoints on solderside of the mainboard.
Measured from the pins of the chips down to the solderjoints on solderside of the mainboard.
My first Atari (from 1987):
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
- frank.lukas
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Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
... my guess is that the mcu is fine.
Check the (all) control signals from Mainboard (mcu) to the daughterboard ST Ram mcu ...
Check the (all) control signals from Mainboard (mcu) to the daughterboard ST Ram mcu ...
Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
Work kept me busy lately - so today I had some time to come back to this faulty card.
As suggested I checked connectivity to/from the MCUs and I might found the issue:
C2 seems to be the smoking gun: it spilled out its guts to the PCB:
I didn't see that initially because the cap was flush to the board. Checking continuity pointed me to the underside of the cap.
Now I have to recreate 3-5 traces and source 3x 47µF, 16V axial caps
As suggested I checked connectivity to/from the MCUs and I might found the issue:
C2 seems to be the smoking gun: it spilled out its guts to the PCB:
I didn't see that initially because the cap was flush to the board. Checking continuity pointed me to the underside of the cap.
Now I have to recreate 3-5 traces and source 3x 47µF, 16V axial caps
My first Atari (from 1987):
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
Atari 260ST, 1 MByte, TOS 1.02, SF314 & SF354 floppy disks, monochrome monitor SM124
I still have this machine ...
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Re: ST-RAM card: White picture with red border
It’s very unusual o see leaking axial caps as they’re usually better sealed.
Intro retro computers since before they were retro...
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
