It would be amazing to be able to buy new cases for the ST. This is an area which is sadly missing for Atari retro users.
Amiga users are very lucky. I have new black replacement cases for my A1200 and A500 and it just completes the refurbishment of our wonderful machines.
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Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
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Re: Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
IIRC Amiga guys found the original molds.
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Re: Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
Yeah sorry I saw the posts on the splits and rejoins also and it’s a technique we use a lot in prototyping but like you say it’s the efforts and accuracy of the rejoin and how you split. Normally I’ll create what’s called an A-surf and split early on in the CAD feature tree.
But in terms of consumer grade finish the surface texture you put on (which is put on the moulding tool) can’t be achieved by FDM/SLS/SLI of any type that technology allows yet. Basically you can’t print a VDI30 surface finish.
BUT if your goal is geometry accuracy and material, finish and colour are not important then prints are fine. I was just looking to the production/commercial route which I’m familiar with.
My gut feel is it’s viable…but to cover the tooling cost at say 500 units you need £30 margin on each case set to break even at the soft tooling costs I believe are in the right ball park.
But in terms of consumer grade finish the surface texture you put on (which is put on the moulding tool) can’t be achieved by FDM/SLS/SLI of any type that technology allows yet. Basically you can’t print a VDI30 surface finish.
BUT if your goal is geometry accuracy and material, finish and colour are not important then prints are fine. I was just looking to the production/commercial route which I’m familiar with.
My gut feel is it’s viable…but to cover the tooling cost at say 500 units you need £30 margin on each case set to break even at the soft tooling costs I believe are in the right ball park.
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Re: Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
So just to close off this thread from my point of view and think from what I can tell, a production quality moulded case would be nice to have but unlikely to attract the kind of investment needed for even the soft tooling method I suggest.
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Re: Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
That's not true. A1200.net paid tens of thousands to remake them from scratch. I think their Kickstarter raised like £150k for the A1200 case and Indiegogo raised £159k for the A500 case
The only original molds I know that were found were those of the Atari Jaguar that following the close of Atari were sold to a company making dentistry equipment who used them to encase dentistry devices until they sold them to Atari enthusiasts.
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Re: Reverse CAD Atari ST case.
Just as a side note I saw a post somewhere (I can't recall if it was on here or elsewhere) about a 3D printed case ordered from PCBWay I think. It was very expensive too.
I know that's a lot of 'I thinks' BTW...
It didn't turn out well, very poor quality and ultimately unusable, so just be aware you might not get the result you want from a 3D print house and it may well depend on the quality of your model.
I know that's a lot of 'I thinks' BTW...
It didn't turn out well, very poor quality and ultimately unusable, so just be aware you might not get the result you want from a 3D print house and it may well depend on the quality of your model.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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