I have an hour so plenty of time to eat and retro 😁HigashiJun wrote: 29 Nov 2024 23:42I wonder how you manage to take your lunch while working on your machines...
I would rather call it a retro lunch.
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Bad Acorn Day
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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HigashiJun
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Same here, but some repairs need more than 1 hour and I don't want to start something and resume it later.
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I don't usually repair over lunch, but I like to build :)HigashiJun wrote: 30 Nov 2024 05:21Same here, but some repairs need more than 1 hour and I don't want to start something and resume it later.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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So, I have decided that for the BBC B I need to leave installing the Sidewise board - for now. I don't want to add complexity whilst working on the FDD side of things, so it can wait.
I'll try and find some BBC disk images and hook up a Gotek next and see where that gets me.
As for the A5000, the PSU is definitely dead, as with a known good mains lead there is no output at all, which may explain the weird behaviour. I'll pull it and have a look on the bench, see what's what.
For now though, I'm just enjoying a nice cup of tea :)
I'll try and find some BBC disk images and hook up a Gotek next and see where that gets me.
As for the A5000, the PSU is definitely dead, as with a known good mains lead there is no output at all, which may explain the weird behaviour. I'll pull it and have a look on the bench, see what's what.
For now though, I'm just enjoying a nice cup of tea :)
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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OK, so fun and games with the A5000. I tried to plug in the FDD power as I'd removed almost everything and the PSU sprang back to life, but the FDD power plug broke off and in the process and when it shifted it broke off the stepper motor connector!!!!
The solder looks awful!!!
It's nothing I can't fix, but bloody annoying all the same.
Harumph!!!
The solder looks awful!!!
It's nothing I can't fix, but bloody annoying all the same.
Harumph!!!
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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More repairs than expected...
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OK, A5000 FDD repaired and working:
Bit of minor trace repair needed, the pads and traces at either end ripped up, but the machine boots fine and reads the FDD fine. Floppy disaster averted, just need to figure out what the main machine is up to now.
Time for a look at the Beeb now.
Bit of minor trace repair needed, the pads and traces at either end ripped up, but the machine boots fine and reads the FDD fine. Floppy disaster averted, just need to figure out what the main machine is up to now.
Time for a look at the Beeb now.
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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OK, so progress is progress I suppose.
I think the problem with the A5000 is memory. I've removed everything and flattened the config down to just a floppy disk, so nothing else at all connected, and the 2MB RAM board removed. I then boot to desktop.
If I leave it long enough it just crashes, so no ifs, no buts, it gets all sorts of exception errors and on screen corruption. So I think I'll pull the board and look for signs of further corrosion around the RAM, or other damage (I thought I'd got it, but you never know) and see where that takes me. I'll likely re-cap it whilst it's apart.
Now over on to the BBC B. I found this when looking more closely at the FDD socket:
Can you spot the bad thing? Wow I thought, gotcha now but I get the same error messages as before with the Gotek even after fixing that!
I think I need to pull the mainboard and double check for bad joints on the FDD socket, and I'll do some more digging around using a Gotek with a BBC in case I've done anything dumb.
I have already gone through the install instructions for the 177X floppy interface and that all looks fine, as does the 8271 installation.
Also, I get the same error with the machine that has the 8271 FDD controller installed. I know it isn't the cable as that is brand new and buzzes out perfectly, and it isn't power because I'm using a known good external PSU.
Bit of a head scratcher. Also I think my head is going to explode!
:dizzy:
I think the problem with the A5000 is memory. I've removed everything and flattened the config down to just a floppy disk, so nothing else at all connected, and the 2MB RAM board removed. I then boot to desktop.
If I leave it long enough it just crashes, so no ifs, no buts, it gets all sorts of exception errors and on screen corruption. So I think I'll pull the board and look for signs of further corrosion around the RAM, or other damage (I thought I'd got it, but you never know) and see where that takes me. I'll likely re-cap it whilst it's apart.
Now over on to the BBC B. I found this when looking more closely at the FDD socket:
Can you spot the bad thing? Wow I thought, gotcha now but I get the same error messages as before with the Gotek even after fixing that!
I think I need to pull the mainboard and double check for bad joints on the FDD socket, and I'll do some more digging around using a Gotek with a BBC in case I've done anything dumb.
I have already gone through the install instructions for the 177X floppy interface and that all looks fine, as does the 8271 installation.
Also, I get the same error with the machine that has the 8271 FDD controller installed. I know it isn't the cable as that is brand new and buzzes out perfectly, and it isn't power because I'm using a known good external PSU.
Bit of a head scratcher. Also I think my head is going to explode!
:dizzy:
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Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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HigashiJun
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Re: Bad Acorn Day
Better to cool down and do one thing after another.
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