A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
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stephen_usher
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
I bet it's a lot heavier than a Mk.I Apple bus mouse ball. That's almost as light as a ping-pong ball.
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PhilC
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
@Icky I got my kit from Retro Bench on eBay.
If it ain't broke, test it to Destruction.
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rubber_jonnie
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
It certainly is!stephen_usher wrote: 30 May 2022 13:37 I bet it's a lot heavier than a Mk.I Apple bus mouse ball. That's almost as light as a ping-pong ball.
I have to say I'm a little shocked at the mouse build quality, it's not great TBH.
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mrbombermillzy
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Hey don't try that... yet.rubber_jonnie wrote: 30 May 2022 13:29I haven't yet, however the internal X/Y rollers are shiny smooth and whilst it would no doubt help to sand the surface of the balls, I'm not sure how effective it would be given the surface of the rollers, hence why I want to add thin rubber to the x/y rollers.stephen_usher wrote: 30 May 2022 13:23 Have you tried scuffing the surface of the balls using sand paper?
The original ball looks to be like most mouse balls and has a rubber like surface.
The Delrin ball would be perfect if it was just a smidge heavier.
In the YT video posted above the guy has used heat shrinked insulation on the rollers and seems to be happy with the grip on that.
I would try that first, if it was me. (Like @rubber_jonnie is wanting to do anyway.)
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Shame you don't have an ethernet card, you can then use omniboot to access windows/samba shares.
I used to have about 60 mixed Archimedes connected up to a NT file server at the school I worked at in the early/mid 90s.
Long since forgotten all the ins and outs.
I used to have about 60 mixed Archimedes connected up to a NT file server at the school I worked at in the early/mid 90s.
Long since forgotten all the ins and outs.
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Actually, after I'd ordered the tubing (I can always find a use for it) I did remember that on the vid so may try that next :)mrbombermillzy wrote: 30 May 2022 14:35Hey dont try that... yet.rubber_jonnie wrote: 30 May 2022 13:29
I haven't yet, however the internal X/Y rollers are shiny smooth and whilst it would no doubt help to sand the surface of the balls, I'm not sure how effective it would be given the surface of the rollers, hence why I want to add thin rubber to the x/y rollers.
The original ball looks to be like most mouse balls and has a rubber like surface.
The Delrin ball would be perfect if it was just a smidge heavier.
In the YT video posted above the guy has used heat shrinked insulation on the rollers and seems to be happy with the grip on that.
I would try that first, if it was me.
I think knowing what I know now, I'd advise replacing all the SMD caps, not only did this have battery damage, but the caps were causing havoc too. I'll fit replacements tonight for the audio circuit caps, and I can't help but think bad caps were pulling the whole machine down.
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Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Yeah, the Econet card seems to work ok based on what I see in the OS, but no way of connecting it to my cat 5 network :(BennehBoy wrote: 30 May 2022 14:38 Shame you don't have an ethernet card, you can then use omniboot to access windows/samba shares.
I used to have about 60 mixed Archimedes connected up to a NT file server at the school I worked at in the early/mid 90s.
Long since forgotten all the ins and outs.
That would be a big help.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Ok, so the heatshrink is looking like it sort of works with the steel ball, well partly, so I will scuff up the heat shrink see if it improves things
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
Ok, so we have some mousage, you can just see here the X/Y rollers with heat shrink on them:
And here is the mouse with its ball of steel!!
There is going to be a need for a rubber mouse mat I think, but I expect given it works reasonably well when operated by hand, a rubber mat will do the trick nicely. Smooth surfaces are out for sure!
I may still use the silicone tubing in place of the heat shrink as it should provide a better grip overall. Once again, I'll take the win.
And here is the mouse with its ball of steel!!
There is going to be a need for a rubber mouse mat I think, but I expect given it works reasonably well when operated by hand, a rubber mat will do the trick nicely. Smooth surfaces are out for sure!
I may still use the silicone tubing in place of the heat shrink as it should provide a better grip overall. Once again, I'll take the win.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: A5000 - diving in at the deep end!
One other thing is, if I can't get the IDE working, I have a SCSI interface, so I could use that instead since it has internal and external connectors.
Hmm, do I have any old SCSI drives though?
Hmm, do I have any old SCSI drives though?
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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