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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2026 3:20 pm Just popped over to see @dad664npc, who, as it turns out, lives less than a mile away!

He verified that the PiStorm board I have is the problem. Although it works perfectly with an Amiga A500 in a LazaruStorm adapter it's just too slow for the ST.

P.S. Testing with my Pi4 and everything works fine.
Interesting...so any hints on how can we tell if our adapters will be ok?
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Nope - just bad luck.
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dad664npc wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2026 5:28 pm Nope - just bad luck.
Ok, will try to test the couple I have working in A500s in an H4 with my Pi4 as soon as I can.
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JezC wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2026 4:56 pm
stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2026 3:20 pm Just popped over to see @dad664npc, who, as it turns out, lives less than a mile away!

He verified that the PiStorm board I have is the problem. Although it works perfectly with an Amiga A500 in a LazaruStorm adapter it's just too slow for the ST.

P.S. Testing with my Pi4 and everything works fine.
Interesting...so any hints on how can we tell if our adapters will be ok?
No idea.

This is the one which doesn't work:

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stephen_usher wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2026 3:20 pm Just popped over to see @dad664npc, who, as it turns out, lives less than a mile away!
Wowsers. I'm near him too. Small world.
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@exxos a quick question.... do you still have the complete TOS 2.06/3.06 source code and information about creating a tool chain to build it?

The reason I ask is that I would like to try to build a PiStorm targeted version in the same way as you did for the TF536. I've tried that version on the PiStorm and it has "issues", such as miscalculating the amount of TT RAM.
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TOS sources are on ottos github pages..

Tool chain.. The only way I could get to work was using the compiler in Gemini desktop running under Hatari. I've not found a better way to compile yet. But will probably ask AI to figure it out next.

You mean you tried my ST536 TOS? Original TOS displayed the wrong ram figure.. That was corrected.. But you won't get more than about 60mb of TTram with ST536 ROM by design.

Be a whole lot easier to use EMUTOS?
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exxos wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2026 11:31 pm TOS sources are on ottos github pages..

Tool chain.. The only way I could get to work was using the compiler in Gemini desktop running under Hatari. I've not found a better way to compile yet. But will probably ask AI to figure it out next.
Ah, thanks. Which compiler was that? Alcyon?
You mean you tried my ST536 TOS? Original TOS displayed the wrong ram figure.. That was corrected.. But you won't get more than about 60mb of TTram with ST536 ROM by design.

Be a whole lot easier to use EMUTOS?
EmuTOS is *SLOW* TOS 2.06 is about 10% faster when running Frontbench.
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stephen_usher wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2026 11:38 pm Ah, thanks. Which compiler was that? Alcyon?
I think so yes. It produces binary identical ROM images to the original.

I've not had time to figure out how to use more modern compilers yet. Probably a lot simpler to figure out on a Linux distro.
stephen_usher wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2026 11:38 pm EmuTOS is *SLOW* TOS 2.06 is about 10% faster when running Frontbench.
Would it really matter if the thing runs crazy fast anyway? IMO you will have a lot less headaches if you use EMUTOS.
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