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Re: First steps with the ATW800/2

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dml wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 9:43 am
Garden has priority! :) I also need to do some stuff around here. Old computers are bad for getting things done.
Yep they certainly are a distraction and not good for getting real chores like gardening done :)
dml wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 9:43 am Butterbrot is one of the special scenes with 'clickzoom' (which will default-on for an even smaller subset of those scenes). With the output window topped, you can left-click on an area and it will be zoomed 2x. A right-click will zoom out. There is no limit to the zoom but some scenes will definitely break down at some point :)
I'll try that later too.
dml wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 9:43 am Clickzoom is banned/blocked/security-locked on the slower scenes because a mis-click might have users throwing their machine at a wall.
Yes, I can well imagine.

Even just normal stuff, such as getting Helios to run multi-cpu and the same for X has caused a lot of consternation and frustration!!!

All good now though after a complete re-copy of the whole ATW800_2 folder structure!
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Re: First steps with the ATW800/2

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rubber_jonnie wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 9:53 am All good now though after a complete re-copy of the whole ATW800_2 folder structure!
You're not the only one, like this guy here: https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 21#p496821

I said to him it's probably a bad data transfer of Helios. I have a feeling lots of people are going to struggle with this, I'm not sure what the root cause of Atari data-transfer issues are - there are just so many methods people use these days, some are better than others, some have bugs/issues you don't realise until you transfer over a large Unix OS :)

Perhaps the safest way of transferring large data is zipped, then extracting on the Atari.
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Re: First steps with the ATW800/2

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Steve wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 12:13 pm You're not the only one, like this guy here: https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 21#p496821
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Steve wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 12:13 pm Perhaps the safest way of transferring large data is zipped, then extracting on the Atari.
...just not with STZip! :p that adds its own 'special bytes' to the fun of transferring stuff.
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Steve wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 12:13 pm
rubber_jonnie wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 9:53 am All good now though after a complete re-copy of the whole ATW800_2 folder structure!
You're not the only one, like this guy here: https://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 21#p496821

I said to him it's probably a bad data transfer of Helios. I have a feeling lots of people are going to struggle with this, I'm not sure what the root cause of Atari data-transfer issues are - there are just so many methods people use these days, some are better than others, some have bugs/issues you don't realise until you transfer over a large Unix OS :)

Perhaps the safest way of transferring large data is zipped, then extracting on the Atari.
Yeah it does seem like it might be a thing. It definitely was for me.

Since I have CosmosEx I unzip on a PC or Mac and then copy over to a network share that is accessible on the MSTE.

What's odd is that I've found transferring large numbers of files and folders fails quite often when I use a colour desktop, but if I use monochrome its generally successful.

Not knowing how people are doing it means I suppose if they are batch copying they might lose a file here or there. I tend to do an 'all in one go' copy since I have access to the network, but I could if required slot my CosmosEx SD card into my Mac or PC since it is readable there as I use HDDRIVER.

I can't imagine that unzipping on the Atari would be a quick process...
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Re: First steps with the ATW800/2

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@dml

Latest version installed and running across my cluster:

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Click to zoom works great for Butterbrot 😁
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Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
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rubber_jonnie wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2026 12:55 pm
Yeah it does seem like it might be a thing. It definitely was for me.

Since I have CosmosEx I unzip on a PC or Mac and then copy over to a network share that is accessible on the MSTE.

What's odd is that I've found transferring large numbers of files and folders fails quite often when I use a colour desktop, but if I use monochrome its generally successful.

Not knowing how people are doing it means I suppose if they are batch copying they might lose a file here or there. I tend to do an 'all in one go' copy since I have access to the network, but I could if required slot my CosmosEx SD card into my Mac or PC since it is readable there as I use HDDRIVER.

I can't imagine that unzipping on the Atari would be a quick process...
I've got an internal Ultrasatan SD-card reader in my Mega STe. So it's easy for me. Download on Windows or my Kubuntu Linux laptop. Copy across. I use a 2 gig SD-card set for both TOS/DOS compatibility. On my 16mhz Mega STe it takes a bit to unzip but it's not exceedingly bad. Honestly, most of the time I do go ahead and unzip it on whatever machine I downloaded it on and then copy it across - just saves time. I'm really glad I went with the internal Ultrasatan. It's absolutely dead-handy. :)
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OK, so I did a thing...

I was never happy having the T425 modules plugged into the ATW800/2 board. They were too tall and caught a little on top of the VME slot.

So now they are soldered on directly to the ATW800/2 board and the fit is so much better, it slides in with no contact at all and fits beautifully now.

All detected too so happy days.
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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