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TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 29 Oct 2023 02:45
by patracy
Just curious, what speed should I see from the TF1260's IDE? I have only seen up to about 1.6mb/s. This is also the same top speed I've seen from the onboard 1200 IDE with the 4xIDE and gale adapter. I thought perhaps it was the SD card, so I tried a different one, along with a different adapter. Then tried simply a CF card and adapter. Still seeing the same top speed for IDE no matter what port it's connected to. Not saying this is any way the fault of the TF1260 as it's had the same speed before. But I thought it'd at least be different on the onboard IDE.

3.2.2, with burned kickstart roms that have EHIDE loaded on them.

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 29 Oct 2023 04:55
by iluvator
I remember was having the same issue when I first upgraded to a TF1260. Problem solved immediately after a fresh installation of mmulib and I was getting 5-6 Mb/s after.

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 29 Oct 2023 08:41
by supaduper
Besides installing MUlibsx06080 Also you must use a Mapper like MUfastrom to speed things up, link below

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/MuFastRom

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 29 Oct 2023 13:17
by patracy
Thanks, I'll take a look at both. I think MMULibs is installed, but perhaps it's not correctly setup.

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 30 Oct 2023 08:49
by terriblefire
patracy wrote: 29 Oct 2023 13:17 Thanks, I'll take a look at both. I think MMULibs is installed, but perhaps it's not correctly setup.
If you are getting 1.6Mb/s it is because the ehide code is running out of ROM (i.e. very slow). You might have MMULibs installed ok but you need to run MuFastROM in order for the driver to be moved into fastram and for it to execute at top speed. By default MMULibs doesnt run MuFastROM after its installed and if you were running ehide.device loaded with loadmodule before and it was working fast then again its because the ehide.device was in faster access memory before and now its been put to slow rom.

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 31 Oct 2023 00:23
by patracy
Thank you everyone for the advice. I loaded MuFastRom and presto 6mb/s!

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 31 Oct 2023 08:00
by supaduper
patracy wrote: 31 Oct 2023 00:23 Thank you everyone for the advice. I loaded MuFastRom and presto 6mb/s!
This is why Exoss is one of the best retro sites there is as we are all here to help each other without the sniping you have on some sites, glad you are sorted fella ;)

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 20 Mar 2024 20:15
by f1lupo
I'm happy AlenPPC told me about MuFastROM when he built me my TF1260 as it's a good 3X faster than the onboard IDE on my system

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 02:37
by Tygerboi
terriblefire wrote: 30 Oct 2023 08:49
patracy wrote: 29 Oct 2023 13:17 Thanks, I'll take a look at both. I think MMULibs is installed, but perhaps it's not correctly setup.
If you are getting 1.6Mb/s it is because the ehide code is running out of ROM (i.e. very slow). You might have MMULibs installed ok but you need to run MuFastROM in order for the driver to be moved into fastram and for it to execute at top speed. By default MMULibs doesnt run MuFastROM after its installed and if you were running ehide.device loaded with loadmodule before and it was working fast then again its because the ehide.device was in faster access memory before and now its been put to slow rom.
Does this speed issue still apply if the Amiga (1200/4000) is running Kickstart 3.2.2 ROMs / Workbench 3.2.2 as ehide code is integrated? Would it still be necessary to run MuFastROM in this environment to get the fastest speeds?

Re: TF1260 IDE speed

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 07:42
by terriblefire
Tygerboi wrote: 06 Sep 2024 02:37
terriblefire wrote: 30 Oct 2023 08:49

If you are getting 1.6Mb/s it is because the ehide code is running out of ROM (i.e. very slow). You might have MMULibs installed ok but you need to run MuFastROM in order for the driver to be moved into fastram and for it to execute at top speed. By default MMULibs doesnt run MuFastROM after its installed and if you were running ehide.device loaded with loadmodule before and it was working fast then again its because the ehide.device was in faster access memory before and now its been put to slow rom.
Does this speed issue still apply if the Amiga (1200/4000) is running Kickstart 3.2.2 ROMs / Workbench 3.2.2 as ehide code is integrated? Would it still be necessary to run MuFastROM in this environment to get the fastest speeds?
ehide isn't in 3.2.2 by default. unless someone added it for you.

You need ROM running out of RAM (cpu fastram, mufastrom or some memory mapped rom) to get max speed.