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Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 16:49
by exxos
I have been trying to get monster working on a H4.. Though I am stuck with TOS104 and the installer says it cannot install the FRB cookie.. it works with TOS206...

So is there a program to actually install the cookiejar on TOS104 ? or is it TOS206+ only ?

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 16:51
by Atarian Computing
exxos wrote: 02 Apr 2020 16:49 I have been trying to get monster working on a H4.. Though I am stuck with TOS104 and the installer says it cannot install the FRB cookie.. it works with TOS206...

So is there a program to actually install the cookiejar on TOS104 ? or is it TOS206+ only ?
Happy fresh new MonSTer owner checking in. That is working as intended. Only TOS2.06, EMUTOS, MAGIC work with the alt-ram.

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 16:57
by exxos
ah, never thought alt-ram wouldn't work with TOS104 :roll:

It does seem possible to install the cookies on TOS104.. but probably no point looking...

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Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 17:00
by frank.lukas
CookieJar program ...
INSJAR.zip
I think there is no Altram/Fastram support with TOS 1.04.

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 19:23
by exxos
frank.lukas wrote: 02 Apr 2020 17:00 I think there is no Altram/Fastram support with TOS 1.04.
Thanks.

Does anyone know of a program which will install the alt-ram FRB cookie in TOS206 ? Or know how to code it (though I would have to use basic for this)

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 21:01
by thorsten.otto
Installing the cookie isn't that difficult (provided there is already a cookie jar, and there is room for another entry; if that is not the case things are a bit more complicated, but since you will need at least TOS 2.x for Alt-RAM anyway, that is unlikely)

The difficulty here is due to the fact that the buffer the _FRB points to must remain valid after the program terminates. That usually means you have to terminate your program by a Ptermres() call rather than just exiting. Although surely doable, i think basic is not the best choice for such a program.

But IIRC, wasn't there some program for the Monster that already does exactly this?

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 21:05
by exxos
thorsten.otto wrote: 02 Apr 2020 21:01 But IIRC, wasn't there some program for the Monster that already does exactly this?
Yeah, but they made it only work with monster :roll:

I did a installer in GB6, but I get odd thing happen afterwards. If I use monster, those things don't happen, its why I thought it might be a cookie issue.

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 21:25
by thorsten.otto
exxos wrote: 02 Apr 2020 21:05 Yeah, but they made it only work with monster :roll:
Maybe i missed something, but whats the point to install a _FRB cookie if the monster can't be detected? ;)

Re: Monster alt-ram and TOS104 problem with cookies ?

Posted: 02 Apr 2020 22:23
by exxos
thorsten.otto wrote: 02 Apr 2020 21:25 Maybe i missed something, but whats the point to install a _FRB cookie if the monster can't be detected? ;)
Because I have my own alt-ram board and can't use monster driver with it.