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Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 20 Aug 2020 22:57
by exxos
Brad said
Atari ST 40 pin R/A connectors are in stock. New are U$D 9.95 and solder pulls are U$D 4.95 each.

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Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 20 Aug 2020 23:31
by troed
Best has them, $45/piece.

A seller on eBay sells a lot of 84 of them, $2000: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Falcon-C ... Sw-s9d3W0l

However, this seems to be a third (US) option. Part number is a match: https://www.4starelectronics.com/part_d ... 0FJ33.html

... you could always see what they want for them.

/Troed

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 20 Aug 2020 23:52
by troed
Legend has it that it's a completely normal DSP56001 - only in a QFP80 package. The cheapest option might be to bet on this, get a PGA88 version and create a converter board.

(note, this one is rated at 20MHz, just an example)

PGA88 DSP56001 for 10 GBP: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-DSP56001R ... SwKulet6Yq


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Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 00:11
by exxos
Wonder why they used a odd package of it :roll:

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Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 02:57
by Umberto1st
troed wrote: 20 Aug 2020 23:31 Best has them, $45/piece.

A seller on eBay sells a lot of 84 of them, $2000: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Falcon-C ... Sw-s9d3W0l

However, this seems to be a third (US) option. Part number is a match: https://www.4starelectronics.com/part_d ... 0FJ33.html

... you could always see what they want for them.

/Troed
That ebay seller is Wizztronics. To bad to see them get out of Atari completely

but their website says they still do repairs

https://www.wizztronics.com/atari.html

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 07:02
by mikro
If Steve from Wizztronics is in good mood, you can talk him into selling you an individual piece, he offered it to me a while ago, too.

As for BEST... you'd be surprised but he is not interested in shipping big packages - even if you say you don't care about postage costs.

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 09:01
by troed
exxos wrote: 21 Aug 2020 00:11 Wonder why they used a odd package of it :roll:
Actually I think it's Motorola that offered weird packages :) Low pin count (88) was PGA thru hole. If you wanted SMT the package they offered was a 132 pin CQFP or PQFP. So it might simply be board space or pin spacing that was behind Atari's request. Those extra pins are just a lot of NC, GND and VCC ...

/Troed

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 10:12
by sety
mrbombermillzy wrote: 20 Aug 2020 11:15 In that case, does anyone want to chip in and order a 30 foot container of Atari bits to make it worthwhile? :lol:
Good luck with that.

He won't do bulk orders as he seems to be worried about resellers. It's a little unreasonable but I do see his point when it comes to the flippers on eBay. He seems a nice enough guy but to say he's a tad neurotic would be an understatement.

My advice is to not push him. :)

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 10:57
by exxos
troed wrote: 21 Aug 2020 09:01 Actually I think it's Motorola that offered weird packages :) Low pin count (88) was PGA thru hole. If you wanted SMT the package they offered was a 132 pin CQFP or PQFP. So it might simply be board space or pin spacing that was behind Atari's request. Those extra pins are just a lot of NC, GND and VCC ...
Madness, I'm still going to blame Atari for using awkward stuff just the same :lol:


EDIT:

I will ask around and see if I can find anywhere which sells the chip as well.

Re: WTB: Falcon DSP IC

Posted: 21 Aug 2020 13:49
by mrbombermillzy
Thanks Chris, I appreciate that!

IIRC Isnt the Falcon CPU a 'custom job' too?

Thanks for the 'bulk buy' heads up Mikro/Sety.

I was flicking through the Rev.10 catalog and was going to make the purchase from Brad worthwhile by getting a few other bits, but it sounds like thats not a good idea.

I also tried tried Wizztronics a few days back. So far no reply.