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CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 21:15
by exxos
This is the best I can get the video with what I currently have footage and audio wise... Thanks to @Badwolf for the "icky audio" . There was no "audience" mic, so had to amplify the audio from my cam which isn't great. But it works. I didn't get setup in time, so missed the first minute of the presentation :( So filled with some random images from the day :)





If anyone wants to ask any other questions and go ahead..

I think one thing I should probably clarify was asking about implementing the features in Hatari etc..
You can select any bus speed you want like 8MHz, 16Mhz, 32MHz etc. So at that point theres actually nothing else to emulate because the bus speed up will be scalable. Like 8MHz is 100% score, 16MHz 200% score, 32MHz 400% score.

The possible unknown in all this is how much bandwidth we allocate to the shifter , I'm not sure how emulators tackle that exactly. The biggest bottleneck of course, is always going to be ST-RAM. So that will double in speed eachtime along with the CPU anyway.

If we allocate more bandwidth to the shifter, then of course, the CPU will have less time, but we do have the option for higher colour depths and high resolutions etc.

In terms of the blitter, as previously on the forum, I just throw out the numbers as 128Mhz blitter, and it can work in burst mode with the SDRAM. "word access" will be expensive, it's like that on a regional system because of was dreamt overhead anyway. But once the SDRAM has opened up the rows, BURST mode to blitter can be like 10ns access time (depends on speed of RAM, FPGA delays, PCB delays etc) But thats a insane boost in speed. If TOS does a "wipe screen" with the blitter, it will be done insanely fast. No others special software would be needed. Anything which would use the blitter, will just instantly make use of the higher speeds.

Currently the blitter on original machines is "locked" to 8MHz like the CPU, basically because of the RAM bottleneck. So when we scaled up to 32MHz CPU & blitter, we get a huge speed bump there alone. But we don't have to limit it to the CPU clock speed either, we can run the blitter and much higher speeds that like 128MHz. So the blitter can move blocks of memory around at insane speeds, as long as its a BURST access. WORD access on the blitter is expensive, still be faster than the original machines anyway. But BURST access like full screen clears will be where it will shine.

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 12 Oct 2025 21:49
by Badwolf
I heard a rumour that Icky's wearing a wig in this.

BW

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 09:19
by Icky
Badwolf wrote: 12 Oct 2025 21:49 I heard a rumour that Icky's wearing a wig in this.

BW
Now that would have been a sight to see :o

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 11:26
by Badwolf
Icky wrote: 13 Oct 2025 09:19
Badwolf wrote: 12 Oct 2025 21:49 I heard a rumour that Icky's wearing a wig in this.
Now that would have been a sight to see :o
@exxos! Time for your AI skillz to generate the first minute and a half of Icky's talk with him looking like Tina Turner, I reckon.

...in the hair department, I mean. I don't think we need a sparkly mini-dress...

BW

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 11:30
by exxos
Badwolf wrote: 13 Oct 2025 11:26 @exxos! Time for your AI skillz to generate the first minute and a half of Icky's talk with him looking like Tina Turner, I reckon.

...in the hair department, I mean. I don't think we need a sparkly mini-dress...
Pink dress maybe ?

I had @Icky singing a couple years ago :P

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 13 Oct 2025 14:01
by agranlund
Thanks for sharing the Phoenix presentation with us lot that couldn't attend in person!
Greatly appreciated :)

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 16:17
by felicemaggie
Here's my video from the same presentation ..


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Cheers

Rich.

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 16:26
by Badwolf
felicemaggie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 16:17 Here's my video from the same presentation ..
Thanks @felicemaggie. Are you happy for me to use a bit at the start of that? With attribution, of course.

Cheers,

BW

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 17:14
by felicemaggie
Absolutely @Badwolf - no problem :D

Cheers,

Rich.

Re: CYBER LEGENDS 4 2025 Phoenix presentation

Posted: 14 Oct 2025 17:42
by exxos
I'm caught on camera as well :lol: :roll: